Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1165 Spoilers Discussion

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Old Garp blitzed Kuzan twice in face-to-face. Old WB had to sneak an admiral from behind to finally get a scene where he looks good against them.
Bro there's no way you believe this 😭

So are you seriously telling me that Old Garp's performance was better than Old Whitebeard's?

Let's flip it — are you telling me that Old Garp would be able to survive everything WB survived on MF without the use of CoO, CoC, no life support and with random heart attacks and match Whitebeard's performance?
 
It's not cope, he did. "Leaving in the dust" is an overstatement but he definitely got stronger. They weren't in their primes on GV. Compare the performance of old Whitebeard and old Garp.

Are you seriously telling me that Old Garp outperformed Old Whitebeard? Of course not, Whitebeard's performance was leagues better and in a significantly worse condition where he couldn't even use CoC lol. Garp went down to one ex-Admiral who was significantly holding back after a single cheapshot that wasn't even fatal.

An infinitely worse condition WB (no CoC, no CoO) went down after a Squard cheapshot, heart attack, Akainu donut cheapshot (which was significantly worse than Shiryu's stab), a Kizaru laser, losing half his actual head, and then getting jumped by BB's entire crew, plus a million cannon strikes, stabs and gunshots along the way.

GV doesn't change the fact that we saw old Garp's performance vs old WB and WB cleared, easily, whilst being ridiculously nerfed to boot. A man who was canonically <= Roger. A pre-prime performance on GV doesn't magically change that. Whitebeard and Roger, after GV, went onto become the top 2.

People are being dishonest — no chance you seriously think that, if you drop a perfectly healthy old Whitebeard into Old Garp's shoes, that he loses in the same way or worse. Absolutely no chance.
Garp blitzed Kuzan twice in face-to-face, WB had to sneak an admiral to finally get a scene where he looked good (and still ended up losing a part of his head). WB had better endurance and AP but Garp folds in every other metric
 
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