Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1165 Spoilers Discussion

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Cruxroux

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Dragon777 said:
Dude, you have reached the same level as the Shanks fan who say he Isn't a swordsman.

Stop, take some air.

Prime Xebec with the crude and clumsy haki of 1010 Luffy.
And this totally made up notion of "refinement" too.

Lol

Learn to take the Ls better man.
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Dude.
You seriously lack the ability to Read at this point.

You're not answering any of my arguments.

- Show trails on Xebec Attack like sky split in Kaidou and Luffy attack. And even Roger and whitebeard I'll wait.

- Show me them " Clashing " not " Attacking/ hit landing on them ".
 
SakazOuki

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HeroesNZ said:
No, middle ground is accepting Garp is on their level.

Garp > Rogerbeard is absolutely absurd given the 1000+ chapters of precedence which tells us the opposite. This conclusion straight up makes no sense and is as dumb as saying things like Zoro > Luffy or Sanji > Zoro. Rogerbeard are Garp's ceiling, not the other way around.

Similarly, Rogerbeard >> Garp is absurd given that Garp is clearly portrayed as one of the top fighters of his era. Before GV, many had Garp on par with guys like Shiki, Prime Kaido etc... Now it's safe to say Prime Garp was a PK level fighter.

My middle ground is that the PK tier is Prime Roger >= Prime WB > Prime Garp, and the only reason Garp is in that conversation is because of this very brief GV flashback. Roger ~ WB as the top 2 is a One Piece staple, solidified for decades. Recency bias based on a brief flashback which also doubles as the peak/highlight of Garp's career is not gonna change that. Garp's peak is an equal win with Roger - Roger went onto become Pirate King and when he died, Whitebeard was the one who became known as Roger's closest equal and the strongest, don't forget that.
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Roger agenda hedges on him being Garp’s equal at this point
 
Cruxroux

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Hedfi

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Monster Zoro's Tesla Supplier said:
Kinemon can just create fire on his sword
So either it's a random ability people can have or it's something Haki related
At this point though everything is Haki related, so..
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My own theory on Kinemon's fire is that it's obviously Haki related but particularly related to Breath Of All Things subcategory of CoA Haki. Kinemon is not unique either, there's Kiku who produces snow with his sword, Vista who produces rose petals and that one pirate captain ally of WB McGuy who produces electricity with his swordsmanship. Like I said, I think these phenemenons are related to BOAT with individuals somehow attunes themselves to a particual Breath of nature, it's pretty similar to Demon Slayer power system now that I think about it.

Sanji's fire though, I don't think it's BOAT related since he's obviously not a swodsman like the examples above. It's either a Lineage Factor power, particularly Lunerian related or some other unique mutation, or a yet unexplained Haki phenemenon related to emotion and CoA which imo is a better explanation.
 
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