Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1165 Spoilers Discussion

[Definitivo]

saved for what lol

roger doesn't have any other prominent fights left in the manga

he's done

he's fucking dead.

unless oda copies the superior Kishimoto and goes for Edo Tensei, Loger ain;t doing shit

Roger will appear in future flashbacks (I'm thinking of the Shanks flashback).

There was no need to reveal his true abilities now that he's not at his prime.

 

[GeneralP123]

When you are domi reversed your will is subdued meaning strength of your coc haki cant possibly be on its peak .

Meaning this is strength of regular Xebec coc haki.

I agree Domi Xebec at best just got his physical stats amplified, his haki probably stayed the same or got slightly weaker.

 

[style]

This was Garp's flashback; that stinky old man was defeated and won't participate in the final war, so Oda exaggerated him in this flashback as a farewell.

Roger is being saved for later.

Lodestar hype

 

[Djordje]

He wont die until he imparts some final words that inspire Roger to go on his journey.

Also island needs to be destroyed somehow.

 

[ElderOnitar]

Xebec never used a haki barrier against Imu or Harald, it's a new ability.

 

[Cross_Marian]

Ngl God Valley was pretty underwhelming
It had some good moments but the total package was weak
Dragon's role was the most surprising part for me
Xebec deserved a better ending, at least one chapter more
God Valley was overall a 6/10 for me
Maybe that’s even a little bit too high

 

[park_min young]

Roger‘s hype is dead for now, although he might still get his own flashback later.

 

[Hanzo hattori]

Another flashback and still WB/Roger/Garp didnt show future sight

 

[SkySanji]

Xebec never used a haki barrier against Imu or Harald, it's a new ability.

Imu is giving Xebec some of his haki which is why he can do it.

 

[GodofDarkness]

Luffy used it on a literal bull. Ace used it as a child when people were attacking his family. Luffy used it when he was just trying to intimidate fishman or clashed with Doflamingo.

And you think teach not using it when he clashed with Law or even Boa makes sense?

He just doesn’t have it. He’s a fruit merchant.

Blackbeard will show it against Shanks either in a flashback or there future fight.

 

[Monkey D Theories]

This is basically the killshot for Shanks agenda btw. There is no haki wizardry or anything.

Roger was more or less a pure swordsman and so is Shanks.

Mihawk is above Shanks and likely above Roger as well.

 

[MonsterKaido]

Another flashback and still WB/Roger/Garp didnt show future sight

Among top tiers only Kaido , Shanks , Luffy and waban has shown it iirc.

 

[Djordje]

I agree Domi Xebec at best just got his physical stats amplified, his haki probably stayed the same or got slightly weaker.

Well logically that should be the case.

 

[Fujishiro]

When you are domi reversed your will is subdued meaning strength of your coc haki cant possibly be on its peak .

Youre leaning too much into the haki is willpower thing. And idk what that has to do with my post about Xebecs Haki being too strong to bypass.

Meaning this is strength of regular Xebec coc haki.

[/QUOTE]
I doubt it.

 

[Djordje]

This is basically the killshot for Shanks agenda btw. There is no haki wizardry or anything.

Roger was more or less a pure swordsman and so is Shanks.

Mihawk is above Shanks and likely above Roger as well.

Mihawk was below WB / Kaido so below Roger too.

 

[Lor D. Coast]

So Rocks, Roger and Garp are the only ones to have killed immortals, this makes Gaban this arc's Hyogoro.
This is why Luffy, Zoro and Loki where singled out, they have to reach that level of haki to kill immortals.

 

[Fujishiro]

First it was Xebec is mindless now its another thing, its not that his will is subdued, his will has changed @Djordje

 

[Djordje]

Youre leaning too much into the haki is willpower thing. And idk what that has to do with my post about Xebecs Haki being too strong to bypass.

I doubt it.[/QUOTE]
Regular Xebec > DR Xebec confirmed.

 

[Finalbeta]

Normal Xebec would probably lose to Roger in a CoC fight, but this version of Xebec took the combined efforts of Roger and Garp to be overcome.

 

[Fujishiro]

I doubt it.

Regular Xebec > DR Xebec confirmed. [/QUOTE]
Its actually the reverse. It took all of Roger and Garps haki to defeat DR Xebec.