Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1165 Spoilers Discussion

[RayanOO]

Honestly how did it come to this?

Post time skip brain damage

 

[MonsterKaido]

he was taken out of the fight wasnt he?

WB respects Xebec and even questioned his motives, WB is a family man you think he would willingly go out of his way to fight his captain, no? especially when he can see garp roger fighting him

Lmfao. WB was also taken out of the fight. Its same case as Kaido. You making up excuses for WB lol.

 

[Boiroy]

 

[MUUGEN]

Why are you comparing prime WB to a YC1 level kaido

Prime Kaido can do as much WB did

yooo you kaido wankers are fucking funny now kaido was only YC1 level at this time, wasnt he able to match Xebec in a 1onb1 and being stronger than Harald. make up your fucking mind stay consistent stop using some nonsense agenda bs

no he can not lol with one arm kaido is not clashing the same way Rocks and WB are

 

[Boiroy]

I think oda is serious about ending op in 5 years
After making this fight for a chapter
If oda drags op for another 10 years
Fuck the bitch

 

[Bisoromi Bear]

Xebec's fatass son

Today being fat is associated with eating junk food and being a couch potato. In the good old days it stood for being of high status and well-fed.
Same with the colorful clothes y'all keep complaining about.
Open a history book for once smh

 

[Fujishiro]

Yeah but all Nika does is like, inspire slaves. Does Imu even really have a reason to care about that?

Nika is a fighter. And likely the counter to Imus powers.

 

[Boiroy]

yooo you kaido wankers are fucking funny now kaido was only YC1 level at this time, wasnt he able to match Xebec in a 1onb1 and being stronger than Harald. make up your fucking mind stay consistent stop using some nonsense agenda bs

no he can not lol with one arm kaido is not clashing the same way Rocks and WB are

Prime Kaido is built different

 

[Etzel Andergast]

Leech Hawk
Vermin Imu

Rats > vermins

 

[RayanOO]

Team Delena

 

[MarineHQ]

Today being fat is associated with eating junk food and being a couch potato. In the good old days it stood for being of high status and well-fed.
Same with the colorful clothes y'all keep complaining about.
Open a history book for once smh

To think you're allowed to vote.

 

[Ricassian]

Its already a 13 chapter flashback, and Xebec has many awesome panels. Its like this because theres too much to address.

Personally Id wait to see the full picture, but the way Ive always taken this series is to not set yourself up to expect more than what has been done beforehand.

Oda doesnt spend a large amount of time drawing fights in flashbacks. In fact this is the most he's ever done in one event behond big name clashes.

I'm not strictly talking about fights tho, that was expected, I'm mostly talking about interactions and appearances OUTSIDE of Xebec, Roger, Garp and the OG Emperors.

• Gloriosa and Stussy arrived on the island and then went MIA. Gloriosa even had a build up for meeting Shakky and possibly have an assist role in her rescue.
• The Knights of God grouped together, after that: MIA. We didn't even see them in the background. Maffey was the only brief exception.
• Bogard is another one. Shown arriving on the island and running on Garp's side before reaching Imu's position, after that... MIA.

I could continue.
Now I know those are a lot of characters to handle for a flashback, but to increase the sensation of how heavy and out of the world the God Valley incident was, all Oda needed were little things here and there. I can give you some examples:

• Briefly show Gloriosa covering Rayleigh while he's carrying Shakky, maybe with a quick exchange of words between her and Shakky.
• Keep the infighting between the Rocks Pirates by having Shiki and Axe clash with each other, right near John and Ganzui. Good way to show how things are escalating.
• Show a couple of God Knights dropping pirate bodies left and right. A matter of 2 panels that rafforces their presence as a factor in the conflict.
• Have Bogard do... something. Even just a cool intervention to stop an enemy and let Garp go ahead on his way.
• With Roger and Rayleigh absences, show Gaban taking control of the crew and giving them instructions of what to do.
• Show an important clash in the background (Sunbell vs Barbell for example)...

Point is, some of these things probably happened offscreen, but not seeing even a glimpse of them takes away from the experience.
All things that could be solved by adding some good panels here and there chapter by chapter (see Marineford).

Flashback isn't finished, so I'm not dropping the ball yet, but I'm starting to worry...

 

[ZenZu]

Is there a single group in the history of anime manga with more aura than this?
https://streamable.com/mu74a5

 

[Bisoromi Bear]

God you're such an autistic little turd
Go live in the woods or some mental ward

Stop gatekeeping. I know you are familiar with them.

 

[SakazOuki]

Why are Pisshawk fags always twerking

 

[LadyVados]

So pre-aCoC Zoro survives Hakai while aCoC and Domi-amped Xebec dies to a likely weaker combo and people laugh when I say current Zoro is already stronger than prime Rocks?

Nah bro even GV Roger and Garp > Big Meme and Laido

 

[Blackbeard]

Renoir attempts to vanish Verso

 

[Fujishiro]

So where is all this betrayal that Kaido was speaking about, they just kinda left their own way after Xebec turned into a monster.

 

[Boiroy]

Team Delena

Nobody cared about stefan

 

[MonsterKaido]

GV was shit. Expectations - Roger pirates + garp vs rocks pirates.

Reality - small irrelevant clashes here and there and half chapter of roger and garp vs domi xebec