Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1165 Spoilers Discussion

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ZenZu

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If Oda won't go deeper into their abilities the old gen will remain CoC merchants and I doubt we will see them again.

New school has stuff like FS, ID CoA, magic swords and such.
Via Shanks and Coby (Kamusari/×- impact) Roger and Garp might get something like ID CoA confirmed atleast, but still.

It ain't looking too good for Roger right now, when I think about Shanks' feats tbh. Always thought that if one has to be it, that Shanks would then be the low budget haki god not the other way around. Will see
We already know Rayleigh has ID, Gaban has FS. Yet Roger has shown nothing. This is just a consequence of a lack of focus nothing more.
 
Which ones? I would love if he joined, only thing I can think of is he can't fit in the Sunny
1. You mentioned it yourself
2. Loki's power
3. If they fight Teach's crew, who is Loki's rival?
Aokiji?
This fight puts Loki above the rest of the crew and who the hell are Kobe, Kata, and Law going to fight?
4. Elbaf needs protection
5. Loki being added to the crew will destroy Sanji's character at best
There is no way to nerf Loki, even Sanji with advcoc can't be equal to someone with advcoc and legendary fruit and Harald's genes.
 
Ngl I think Shiki himself didn't look particularly bad, he even shared some cool combo panels with WB & co at the beginning of GV. He just was not mean to be relevant like the wings.
Issue is how shit his rival ended up looking and it is dragging him down by proxy, he would've been much better off without Bum Axe's existence.
 
Ngl I think Shiki himself didn't look particularly bad, he even shared some cool combo panels with WB & co at the beginning of GV. He just was not mean to be relevant like the wings.
Issue is how shit his rival ended up looking and it is dragging him down by proxh, he would've been much better off without Bum Axe's existence.
Tbh Silver Axe is probably fine. It’s like Rayleigh getting bruised to hell by fodder too. It’s just oda drawing random battles
 
We already know Rayleigh has ID, Gaban has FS. Yet Roger has shown nothing. This is just a consequence of a lack of focus nothing more.
I made a little thread on it but Devine departure is definitely some special conquerors attack. What the hell is it exactly doing besides just enhancing the attack power? I have no idea tbh but it’s definitely more complicated than just coming from advanced armament since Rayleigh should be a master but isn’t capable of doing it
Maybe Garp is doing the same thing but with punches instead. As for what the hell xebec is doing I also have no idea
:sanmoji:
We’ll probably find out this arc or in 10 years idk
It should be pretty obvious at this point that Roger and his wings each specialize in each different type of haki


Rayleigh specializing in armament is capable of internal destruction and Gaban specializing in observation is capable of future soghg


Roger specializes in conquerors but at this point that doesn’t matter too much if there’s nothing unique he can do with it. He like Shanks and Luffy more likely than not also has both forms of advanced armament and observation but eh. It’s cool but still leaves him specializing conquerors feeling irrelevant tbh


After saying all that we might have already seen an ability that only someone who specializes in conquerors is capable of doing
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That being whatever the hell Roger and Shanks are doing when using divine departure

It doesn’t look to complicated to do but it surprisingly is. If it was just due to their armament mastery alone than there’s no reason a master in the field like Rayleigh wouldn’t be able to mimic it but we know he can’t. So whatever the hell they’re doing with their haki might be Luffy’s next goal too
 
Ngl I think Shiki himself didn't look particularly bad, he even shared some cool combo panels with WB & co at the beginning of GV. He just was not mean to be relevant like the wings.
Issue is how shit his rival ended up looking and it is dragging him down by proxh, he would've been much better off without Bum Axe's existence.
The question is why tf did Oda create this bum and made him and Shiki have this retarded Zoro-Sanji dynamic only to them not even clash with Wings in GV?kingufy

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World's Strongest Swordsman
I made a little thread on it but Devine departure is definitely some special conquerors attack. What the hell is it exactly doing besides just enhancing the attack power? I have no idea tbh but it’s definitely more complicated than just coming from advanced armament since Rayleigh should be a master but isn’t capable of doing it
Maybe Garp is doing the same thing but with punches instead. As for what the hell xebec is doing I also have no idea
:sanmoji:
We’ll probably find out this arc or in 10 years idk
Swordsmanship. Thats what they do.
 
Garp and Harald the main rival and arguably best friend of Roger and Xebec


Luffy and Loki the grandson of Garp and son of Harald. Coincidentally sharing the same dream as their rival
Bro, Harald is a bum who got beaten by his son, a rookie that Shanks no diffed.

Only reason he's even in this flashback, is that Oda's running out of time to show GV, so somehow he had to pretend Elbaf is related to it and made some contrived story.

"Oh Rocks passed by Elbaf, that's why Elbaf is totally related to GV and Imu and Rocks"
 
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