Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1165 Spoilers Discussion

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More details of the chapter, thanks to redon from Arlong Park Forums. Chapter of 17 pages

- Chapter 1,165: “Echoes”.

- Reader request in the cover: “Bepo laying comfortably with Zeus as a pillow”. Oda added Law to the cover, and all of them are sleeping on top of a giant sheep.

- Chapter starts where last one ended. Garp asked Roger if he can also hear Rocks voice. Then Roger and Garp attacked demon Rocks.

- We see multiple pages of the battle. Roger and Garp's attacks didn't wound Rocks. This confrontation ended with a colossal clash that created a massive wave of Supreme King Haki. Roger and Garp crashed into the mountains. The clash split the sky over God Valley.

- Roger and Garp got up after the clash. Despite being wounded, they took off their jackets, ready to continue fighting. Two little Den Den Mushi started ringing and they talked with their comrades.

Roger/Garp: "We will return!!!"

Garp: "Rocks... Roger... I was planning on putting both of you in cuffs on this island, but now...!!"

Roger: "And my original plan was to take Shakky and the treasures and get the hell out of here!!!
Seems like we will have to team up huh?"

Garp: "NOT MY INTENTION coming here at all!!! But I suppose leaving this fella to his own is out of the options!!!"

- Then Roger and Garp attacked Rocks again. At the same time we see that Rayleigh reached their ship and brought Shakky to safety. Roger Pirates arrived too with all treasures they could get.

- We see Kyo telling his men to take the ship and leave the island. Shiki said too that this is the end of “Rocks Pirates”.

- Linlin and Kaidou were talking in other part of God Valley. They were fine despite Rocks attacks.

Linlin: "Listen now, Kaidou!! This is the “DEBT OF A LIFETIME”!! And I will make you pay me back one day!!!"

Kaidou: "Idiot!! I beat you in that competition for the fruit, that's the simple truth Linlin!!
Just you see!! I will establish a crew where violence is everything!!!"

Linlin: "Getting ahead of ourselves aren't we!! You will never surpass me!!"

Streusen: "Linlin!! What are you doing!! We are leaving, take the treasures!!"

Linlin: "I will come to collect that debt one day."

Kaidou: "And I will throw you back where you came from!!!"

- In other part of God Valley, Newgate met the pirate who looked like Marco. He's “Polo Gram” captain of “Polo Pirates”.

Polo: "Newgate!! You are the one who crashed that mountain, aren't you!?
Looks like the crew is falling apart!! My name is Gram!! I am a fan of yours!!
You got no ships to return to, right!? Work with me!!"

Newgate: "Sounds like a pain, get lost!!"

- Stussy, Ganzui and Gill Bastar were also running away with several treasures. Gill Bastar was accompanied by a ghost that looks similar to the ones Perona creates in the present. Stussy was very angry asking where is Newgate.

- In one of the Marines battleships, Dragon was threatening a higher rank Marine with a rifle to take some surviving civilians on the ship with them. On the other hand, Rayleigh and Gaban decided to return to the island to look for Roger. They asked Roger Pirates to leave the island and wait for them.

- Imu in Saturn's body (normal Saturn's body has now Imu's eyes) left the island on a World Government ship. Imu ordered to erase God Valley from existence. Then narrator explains how Marines from G-11 base and Cipher Pol 6 erased all information about God Valley and hunting tournament.

- Garp and Roger Vs. Rocks continues, the other huge mountain of God Valley was destroyed during the battle. Garp and Roger couldn't damage Rocks because even though they coated their attacks with Supreme King Haki, Rocks used his Supreme King Haki to cancel them out.

- Against this background, Roger suggested to pour all their Supreme King Haki together in 1 attack to overcome Rock's guards. But that plan had a problem, after that attack Roger and Garp will have no strength left so it's a big gamble. But Garp agreed with Roger's plan.

- Then in the ABSOLUTELY EPIC final double page of the chapter, Roger and Garp used a combine attack to defeat Rocks.

Roger: "“Hinokagutsuchi no Ace” (kanjis mean “Wise Man of Flame God”)!!!"

Garp: "“Infinitum Explosion”!!!"

- Roger attacked with multiple thrusts to cut Rocks's body and Garp threw Rocks several punches at the same time (this attack is similar to Luffy's “Gomu Gomu no Gatling”).

- Chapter ends with Rocks defeat as narrator talks about the legacy of “Rocks Pirates”...

Narrator:【The “World Government” sought to conceal the incident in this entirety.
However the group under Rocks D. Xebec, was an organization of chaos that shaped an era.
The collapse of the “Rocks Pirates” shook the world with its defined echoes...!!!】

- End of chapter. BREAK next week.
 
kaido is an oni

so different from humans

he did get stronger since lolden beat him
Any evidence suggesting Kaido's haki grows stronger at different rates to humans? He was already known as strong worldwide when Oden beat him, yet Oden still told him to get stronger.

Almost like there's no age cap on growing in strength. That's why you assume characters are at their peak once they're at least vaguely around the peak of their accomplishments. Oda clearly intended for GV to represent Roger and Co's youth, not their primes. Roger's prime was in the Oden flashback.
 
The HKs will get more focus later

So will Shanks and Buggy.
Whether they do or don't, that's really relevant to this flashback sequence.

Right now, God Valley - really the whole flashback - has been overall mid in my book. If you like it better, good for you. This just isn't a disagreement rooted in misunderstanding, only subjective response to art as it is presented.
 
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