Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1165 Spoilers Discussion

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Bro GV Roger and Garp were buns compared to their prime selves, hilariously they ended up looking even worse than Whitebeard who came out unscathed after a serious clash with DR Xebec lmao.

Regardless of whether 1026 Luffy just learned ACoC, he was portrayed as a Yonko level individual and stronger than even Big Mom.

There is absolutely no reason for me to place GV Roger and Garp that high. Incapable of sky-splitting, no evidence of FS, no use of no-touching CoC from Roger... These guys were Admiral level alongside people like Ryokugyu. I wouldn't even put them above guys like Kizaru and Kuzan.

If there were no sky splits on GV then y'all could've had a point, but the fact that Roger and Garp couldn't sky-split at all against Xebec kills any argument whatsoever about these guys being close in strength to their prime selves. Genuinely can't believe Oda chose a solo sky split instead lmfao. It's over.
Yes they probably weren’t in their primes

They were still high top tiers, however

DRocks was negating ACoC punches. That is a level of durability above Kaido or BM. The former was hurt by ACoA attacks while the latter was hurt by strong awakenings.

The fact their finishers could bypass this defense means those attacks probably kill prime Kaido/BM
 

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The Rogue Prince
If we want to classify as a swordsman in the world of OP, we have to look at what the definition of a swordsman is, according to this world. They all might not seem different but that's already based on some kind of definition (same pose with a sword technique= swordsman)
Mate... they have their own individual sword techniques with their swords & haki which results in cuts, shockwaves, twisters and even some voodoo demon god shit.

Semantics aint gonna take away from that.
 
Yes they probably weren’t in their primes

They were still high top tiers, however

DRocks was negating ACoC punches. That is a level of durability above Kaido or BM. The former was hurt by ACoA attacks while the latter was hurt by strong awakenings.

The fact their finishers could bypass this defense means those attacks probably kill prime Kaido/BM
Yonkos already got powercliffed several times over in 1.5 arcs

Only way to stay a top tier in OP is by not being shown
 
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