Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1165 Spoilers Discussion

[Cruxroux]

This is just classic Loda execution in flashbacks. Add the current senile version of Loda on top, and we get what we got in this flashback. Clash and offscreen dogshit.

Anyway, this chapter definitively killed the cope of Roger not being a swordsman, not cutting etc. LMFAO

Also, high attack power necessary won't be shiny.
Consider even Zoro. Ignoring Zoro growing heads and limbs, the Asura attack itself doesn't look visually appealing at all. He just slashes normally (visually speaking), but it's his strongest technique regardless. Compare that to dragon twister or shishisonson, they look like top tier shit.
Roger can use this technique and probably body some top tiers. And still have it look underwhelming lol.

People need to get out of the idea of Huge DC = High AP.

Shishisonson would shit on 1080 pound phoenix which sliced pika everytime.

Just because Dragon Damnation wasn't flashy like Bajrang Gun and Blazing Bagua.

Doesn't mean it's not comparable to them.

Atleast after this chapter, because Garp and Roger used evrrything at once to pull out one of the strongest technique in the series.

 

[LANJI CUCKSMOKE]

Lmao they are not getting out of this one

 

[Hades]

This is just classic Loda execution in flashbacks. Add the current senile version of Loda on top, and we get what we got in this flashback. Clash and offscreen dogshit.

Anyway, this chapter definitively killed the cope of Roger not being a swordsman, not cutting etc. LMFAO

Also, high attack power necessary won't be shiny.
Consider even Zoro. Ignoring Zoro growing heads and limbs, the Asura attack itself doesn't look visually appealing at all. He just slashes normally (visually speaking), but it's his strongest technique regardless. Compare that to dragon twister or shishisonson, they look like top tier shit.
Roger can use this technique and probably body some top tiers. And still have it look underwhelming lol.

The difference between swordsman and sworduser.... sword users just use the sword as a weapon and use brute force and swings to cut things....whereas swordsmen have swordsmanship and brute force....like a street fighter and skilled martial artist

 

[Kurozumi Wiwi]

This is just classic Loda execution in flashbacks. Add the current senile version of Loda on top, and we get what we got in this flashback. Clash and offscreen dogshit.

Anyway, this chapter definitively killed the cope of Roger not being a swordsman, not cutting etc. LMFAO

Also, high attack power necessary won't be shiny.
Consider even Zoro. Ignoring Zoro growing heads and limbs, the Asura attack itself doesn't look visually appealing at all. He just slashes normally (visually speaking), but it's his strongest technique regardless. Compare that to dragon twister or shishisonson, they look like top tier shit.
Roger can use this technique and probably body some top tiers. And still have it look underwhelming lol.

Oden suffers from the same shit, should be mid top tier at least but his DC feats are pratically nonexistent, it's the fact that he gave Kaido 20 years PTSD that make him impressive, but visually he never showed any move that made me go wow.

 

[Mathias]

It's crazy how the main story about Goofy looks like a rush towards the One Piece when the Roger story looks more like a real adventure through decades to gather the One Piece and all the secrets of the universe.

Goofy is on easy mode. Roger paved the whole story for him.

At this stage in the story in God Valley. They still have no idea about ancient weapons or Laugh Tale....

The Shanks and Dragon flashback will probably have some overlap with prime legends

We also have no idea what happened on Lodestar or Laugh Tale

We do. They read the poneglyphs. They laughed. And that's it.

 

[Phoenix D. King]

Probably the single worst span of chapters for Zoro haters I have seen

- Sanji confirmed CoCless
- Zoro verbally confirmed CoC user
- Shanks father gets bitched
- Marco/Kidd/BB all children of destiny (Zoro and Mihawk are safe)
- Roger and Xebec confirmed sword mains
- Gaban does nothing at all
- Holy Knights confirmed below Mihawk/ EOS Zoro
- Haki is once again, everything, fruit merchants look away

Am I missing anything?

 

[sanjikun]

Cry lanjikun
Your boys haki couldn’t even touch xebec . Some weak shit

Last time I checked, Blackbeard's dad wasn't 50 feet tall with demon wings and vampire teeth.

Or are those a recessive gene, that BB didn't inherit?

 

[Hades]

Fossa said he thought Akainu was dead.

Because he fell down....but post WB death, Akainu, nowhere near looked like a dead man walking...

 

[Cruxroux]

The difference between swordsman and sworduser.... sword users just use the sword as a weapon and use brute force and swings to cut things....whereas swordsmen have swordsmanship and brute force....like a street fighter and skilled martial artist

Oda doesn't differentiate.
He will put. ZORO, SHANKS, ROGER KEEPING LAW AND FUJITORA ALONGSIDE THEM.

 

[Monkey D Theories]

Just because Dragon Damnation wasn't flashy like Bajrang Gun and Blazing Bagua.

Doesn't mean it's not comparable to them.

No, it’s not comparable to them because the former took out a yonko whereas the latter took out a guy who got fodderized by an admiral who admitted inferiority to Kaido.

 

[Ven437]

He absolutely does
Shanks is literally 1 armed dodger

And dodger was equal to garp , u know the one who tanked linlin’s attack no diff

Dodger can atleast make him bleed 😭😭

and 1 armed dodger oneshotted kidd who linlin wasn’t able to keep down even after several attacks .
Absolute pathetic

You're fucking hilarious you should do stand up comedy with this bumger scale logic

That bum couldn't scare anybody in rocks pirates let alone Linlin who laughed at his bumass meanwhile shanks wifi diffed an ADMIRAL

Idiot BEGGED for wb's crewmate and beat zero high tiers on his way to finding a treasure nobody knew about

We call him DODGER bc he sneaked around Linlin's territory like a rat instead of out right beating the pregnant lady you genius

Dodger is a clown and the biggest fraud in the entire series

 

[Hades]

Akainu is just built like that tbf

Maybe but still destruction of surroundings =/= damage to the person....

 

[Kurozumi Wiwi]

My favourite sky split

Only PK+ solo skysplits matter from now. The ones that come from clashes are irrelevant, shoud have understood it when a weak ass fodder like the Kizaru's victim did it in his base.

 

[Monkey D Theories]

- Marco/Kidd/BB all children of destiny (Zoro and Mihawk are safe)

Zoro is a bigger nepo baby than Kid or Marco.

John and Polo seem to be notable pirates, but they are a far cry from sword god Ryuma.

 

[Bad English]

Funny

 

[grey matter]

I doubt that.

Doesn't Current Zoro and EoS Zoro potential is " 100~95 " or even for luffy?

Not remotely comparable situations.

1. Strawhats are MCs, rules are a bit different for them

2. Luffy, Zoro etc are super young and has much lower experiences, their growth and learning curve is high. Compare that to Whitebeard who had his DF and advanced conqueror's haki for likely 10-20 years!!
Whitebeard has honed his powers and haki for many years, has experienced top tier battles, and is already stronger than most top tiers in this flashback. His growth won't be high like that of Luffy or Zoro.
Same story with Roger and Garp, who are 39 or 40 and most likely in their peak power already.

A more apt comparison would be 36 years old Zoro vs 38 years old Zoro.
Do you think 38 years old Zoro is jumping a tier from his 36 years old self? Not going to happen.

 

[Phoenix D. King]

Zoro is a bigger nepo baby than Kid or Marco.

John and Polo seem to be notable pirates, but they are a far cry from sword god Ryuma.

Several hundred years removed doesnt really count

Blood so diluted at this point

 

[sanjikun]

Only PK+ solo skysplits matter from now. The ones that come from clashes are irrelevant, shoud have understood it when a weak ass fodder like the Kizaru's victim did it in his base.

 

[Hades]

Oda doesn't differentiate.
He will put. ZORO, SHANKS, ROGER KEEPING LAW AND FUJITORA ALONGSIDE THEM.

I did not see Oda calling Roger a swordsman like all others in your list....

 

[Bad English]

Woki