Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1165 Spoilers Discussion

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Zoro also left a scar on Kaido while with a broken skeleton. Just because DR Xebec is stronger, doesn't mean every of his moves will leave a scar. Xebec just stuck his blade into Kaido's face and threw him into the mountain. That won't cause a scar. But Roger pouring everything into an attack that overpowered Xebec's Haki and cut Xebec into pieces would.

Well, Dr. Xebec's Haki > Roger's.

So when he pierced him with that Haki and there was no scar, it means it wasn't deep enough. Therefore, we can attribute this to the fact that the attack didn't have enough power, even though it was coated in Haki stronger than Roger's.

Xebec pierced Kaido, and then hit him to push him away.
In this chapter he also hits Roger with his hands and he is visibly very affected by it; I don't see any difference in the attacks, and yet the 21-year-old Kaido was fine.

After breaking Xebec’s Haki barrier, an attack with the power of a G3, G4, or even an OKG can knock him out, because he’s not some endurance god. After breaking Kaidou’s Haki barrier, you need the attack power of a punch the size of an island — the strongest attack in the entire series so far — just to knock the guy out when he’s already on his last legs. The difference here is like heaven and earth.

That's why I'll never buy into the idea that Garp and Roger's final attacks could defeat Kaido; they don't have AP, and Xebec, after the Haki barrier, is a guy with low resistance and a fragile body.
 
When Sengoku is talking about Whitebeard being WSM he specifically talks about Whitebeard being able to end the world
narrator didn't say shit about gura
no one in the manga has ever said Whitebeard is the greatest in 1v1 combat. The closest anyone came to that was saying he was equal to Roger. But then we learned that actually he was WSM during his fight with Roger so actually something before fighting Roger made him WSM
cause it's fucking included. wsm/wsp means he's the strongest pirate there is. that includes wsc and wss titles also.

so there is no need to say the obvious

so not even being equal to Roger in combat was what made him WSM.
having gura was not also it.

he had gura decades before that lol..

the issue is that you are thinking about Zoro and the WSS and thinking that the other titles just have to work like WSS when Oda has never said they do.
oda has never said they don't. Cause he doesn't have to.

why the fuck would wsp or wsc titles be any different from wss? wss is not special at all. it's a lower version of the other two in fact.

Teach isn’t WSM seemingly because he hasn’t proven that he has the capacity to end the world. I mean I assume there is some kind of level of mastery of the fruit and you don’t just automatically become as good with the fruit as Whitebeard is instantaneously
BB literally did the island tilting attack within seconds of getting the fruit lol. that's the best feat wb has ever shown with the gura.

you reaching deep into your ass to pull any headcanon to discredit wb being called the wsm while sick because it proves all titles are fraudulent is hilarious as fuck.
 
One forged the One Piece.
One hid it.
One found it but couldn't use it.

One founded the Ancient Kingdom.
One inherited the throne, but it was stolen from him.
One tried to reclaim it, but wasn't ready.

----> One will finally use the One Piece (Luffy)
---------> One will finally retrieve the throne (BB)

But then:

The rightful heir will rampage and lose his right to rule.
The One Piece will be used to heal the world from the rampage and 800 years of tyranny.

-------> A more suitable ruler will be selected from amid those who'd refused to rule as gods on the Grand Line (Nefertaris)
---------------> The Ancient Kingdom will be restored, barriers erased, wrongs righted, so that the world will be in one piece, so that the world will be in one peace.
 
Also starting the Great Pirate Age >>> . I really like Xebec as a character, don’t get me wrong, but I feel like Roger was actually just as great or greater, but we won’t see much of that yet before we learn what the One Piece actually is. It’s normal he feels a bit underwhelming when it wasn’t his era yet.
 
As much as I make fun of the retarded haki lightning bros and haki suprass all Dumbo's parroters I think it's reasonable to expect that dodger showed something amazing in Gv for making Kaido so impressed
Blud didn't do anything, he as just there
Everything after this is considered Roger’s era

And prior to that it’s heavily implied that the Roger Pirates and the Rocks Pirates clashed multiple times on separate occasions

Kaido’s impressed by Roger, sure, but as we see with his list there are other characters that left a mark on him

Roger wasn’t the only one, he’s just the example he used

Everyone in the OP fanbase (speaking generally) wants to have their cake and eat it too. If you wanted Roger to separate himself from the pack then you can’t complain about Luffy having no real rivals
 
Also starting the Great Pirate Age >>> . I really like Xebec as a character, don’t get me wrong, but I feel like Roger was actually just as great or greater, but we won’t see much of that yet before we learn what the One Piece actually is. It’s normal he feels a bit underwhelming when it wasn’t his era yet.
Xebec was robbed of any meaningful final words. There was a chance for him to tell Garp & Roger important shit, or to warn IMU against his comeuppance. Instead, we got fuck-all. Not even an inner monologue from the guy.
 

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Lazy is the way
give lolden the retard to any moderately strong pirate crew and they also do it

a reminder that dodger NEVER fought a single pirate to get the pone

he literally dodged meme. that's why he's called dodger.
fishman island pone was free. so was zou and wano ones too.
I’m not judging the quality of the title or the way he managed to accomplish his goal

yet he did accomplish it

this put him above any other pirate
 
I get your logic, oda is the most accomplished pirate cause he found the one piece


This only Universally applies however if oda makes clear that every pirate per default wants to be PK or wants their captain to be PK, and the rest are failed examples
Prime example like kaido for example recently sucking off Roger and clearly implies to wanted it in the first place


And I have a feeling oda will not do that


If he does tho it's gonna be very fucking funny for a certain group with a clown :gokulaugh:
 
One forged the One Piece.
One hid it.
One found it but couldn't use it.

One founded the Ancient Kingdom.
One inherited the throne, but it was stolen from him.
One tried to reclaim it, but wasn't ready.

----> One will finally use the One Piece (Luffy)
---------> One will finally retrieve the throne (BB)

But then:

The rightful heir will rampage and lose his right to rule.
The One Piece will be used to heal the world from the rampage and 800 years of tyranny.

-------> A more suitable ruler will be selected from amid those who'd refused to rule as gods on the Grand Line (Nefertaris)
---------------> The Ancient Kingdom will be restored, barriers erased, wrongs righted, so that the world will be in one piece, so that the world will be in one peace.
One forged the one piece = Willie Gallon
One hid it = Joyboy
One found it but couldn't use = Roger
 
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