Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1165 Spoilers Discussion

[MonochromeYoru]

Gamma knife
Takt
Shambles
Amputate
Counter shock

This goes hard

 

[comrade]

Zoro had Kaido's kryptonite, Enma, and Zoro is one of the guys from the new generation who has been said twice as the only ones capable of defeating Kaido.

How come Dr. Xebec, with a Haki far superior to Zoro's and in perfect physical condition, can't leave any scars on Kaido, man?
A 21-year-old Kaido who is less resilient, I don't think he even knew how to coat himself in Haki.


Let's make the situation worse: how is it that the guy with the strongest Haki of the old generation, capable of splitting the skies single-handedly, with Haki superior to Roger's and Garp's, using a sword, stabs Kaido with that same Haki, and that attack isn't even deep enough to leave a scar on 21-year-old Kaido, who couldn't even (probably) coat himself in Acoc Haki?

That just proves the point. Enma isn't magic. It's just a great grade blade with a fierce nature, forcing excess Haki out of the wielder against his will (unless he masters Enma). It's not that his scales are somehow weaker to Enma itself.

So it was just that this all out slash on Kaido's body was way more potent than Xebec poking Kaido's face with his sword and throwing him into the mountain.

 

[EmperorKinyagi]

I wouldn’t talk shit about Koby he’s going to hear Akainu

 

[Lor D. Coast]

Like Xebec, but worse...
No one has the CoC defense/durability like Xebec had, who got pierced and lost his leg/body after Garp and Roger attack.

But Roger doesn't cut and Kaido already tanked/blocked CoC coating gatlings from Goofy.
Unless you want Kaido to just stand there and wait for the attacks.

 

[Etzel Andergast]

Coby gonna be Sakazuki son in law

 

[Loki D. Terror]

It is true that most powerful attacks are not DC based but that doesn't mean it is true for all

Bajrung gun was a monstrous type of attack and flame bagua was able to hold against it for some time --

And it doesn't matter whether garp or roger's final attacks can overpower blazing bagua cause its not that if A character beats B characters it means in general A character is more powerful.

Kaido losing against roger doesn't mean Kaido can not be argued to be stronger in general. He has better dura , endurance , DC , AOE on average with comparable haki. Roger only has stronger acoc by some margin.

@SkySanji @Hanzo hattori @Levi @The DevilMaster

 

[EmperorKinyagi]

On a serious note, Roger and Garp’s attacks probably do have insane DC it’s just not being shown.

Like how Galaxy Impact can nuke islands but was just a punch on Imu

@Kurozumi Wiwi @MonsterKaido

 

[OPKnK]

Kaido after Infinitum Explosion

That is kaido after either of those attack maybe worst from what we see happen to DR rocks lol.

 

[EmperorKinyagi]

Like there’s no way Infinitum Explosion’s raw DC is below Galaxy Impact and Galaxy Divide and those are reshaping islands

 

[Lor D. Coast]

Gamma knife
Takt
Shambles
Amputate
Counter shock

The Surgeon of Death

 

[ImmaIvanoM]

BB has been studying dfs for all his life. If anyone can master a fruit day 1, it's him.
Yet he did not get the wsm title.

WB was fucking enraged and seeing red after akainu killed ace. And he put everything he had behind his attacks against akainu after that. The best that did was split marine ford lol.

WB was not planetary.


I'm not assuming shit. I'm just going off of what the manga showed us.

It's you who are assuming BB did not do everything wb did with gura, or wsm title is different from wss etc etc

You have nothing. No panels. No evidence. Nothing.

Just headcanon after headcanon.

Do you have a panel of any single character saying the WSM is the man who can defeat every other man in combat?

Or are you just taking that from WSS and headcanoning that they must be the same

 

[MonochromeYoru]

On a serious note, Roger and Garp’s attacks probably do have insane DC it’s just not being shown.

Like how Galaxy Impact can nuke islands but was just a punch on Imu

@Kurozumi Wiwi @MonsterKaido

it's cause they were fighting xebec who is still a humanoid and not that big even in domi form. So no need to use big attacks that will not hit his small body for the full effect

if they were against blazing bagua kaido, they would use bigger attacks

Galaxy impact was pretty fucking huge for example

 

[Ven437]

"Haki susanoo" belongs only to the strongest character in the show.

Not marimo surely? The strongest must have a devil fruit + haki. This has already been canonized into solid existence

 

[MonochromeYoru]

Do you have a panel of any single character saying the WSM is the man who can defeat every other man in combat?

Or are you just taking that from WSS and headcanoning that they must be the same

Do you have a panel of any character saying wss is the man who can defeat every other swordsman in combat?

It's implied, just like wsm is.

 

[RayanOO]

He might as well be. @RayanOO is in charge and instead of turning the spoiler thread into a Sanji temple he's supporting France. We are fighting for our lives here Rayan, how could you?

I have my priorities straight 😎

But Sanji is French, more French love can only help him good

 

[Monster Zoro's Tesla Supplier]

Yeah i don't understand the reasoning. Either the title is 100% legit (and thus impossible to dispute), or it isn't. It can't be both at the same time lol

Nik-san is the best zoro fan in this forum, and perhaps in the whole universe

gotta respect the commitment

He actually said that Oda "confirmed" Kaido is above Mihawk but that he'll retcon it later, and then went on to say that Kaido's title wasn't a rumor decades ago but it is now.
Dude's hilarious

 

[RayanOO]

But isn't Mihawk written to be above all swordsmen?

As much as WB was tte WSM while being equal to Roger or Kaido the WSC while being defeated/equaled by Oden

 

[vikas]

I fixed it

 

[MonochromeYoru]

But Sanji is French

So he never has a chance from the start?

why did oda forsake him from inception?
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But isn't Mihawk written to be above all swordsmen?

panel?

 

[ImmaIvanoM]

Do you have a panel of any character saying wss is the man who can defeat every other swordsman in combat?

It's implied, just like wsm is.

I have a panel of Zoro saying he wants to be able to defeat any swordsman in combat.

And Zoro’s goal is WSS

I’m not taking your implication for shit my guy, you have no panels so you are using headcanon.

are we done now?