Powers & Abilities Oda has retconed the Domi reversi immortality

[ImmaIvanoM]

It was already suspicious when Oda had rocks kill his family with no explanation for how he did it yet we showed that Garling can regenerate from Rock’s attacks and even the last panel of Garling impaled we know that Garling didn’t die so Rocks can’t actually kill him

And now we have this Domi Rocks fight where Rocks is bleeding throughout the entire fight and Roger and Garp never even mention once that Rocks is regenerating and onyl seem to care that Rocks has a CoC barrier around himself

And then Rocka gets seemingly defeated simply by doing “big damage” and that’s it. No mention of regeneration at all

Oda has retconed out that “undying body” statement from Gunko panel

 

[Phoenix D. King]

Its a df ability, so haki should be able to conquer it.

 

[Welkin]

It’s possible but we haven’t seen enough to say for sure whether they can or can’t regenerate

It’s possible that they don’t all have the same levels of regeneration. For example, Imu could regenerate from an attack from multiple CoC users instantly but Garling needed time

But it’s also possible that they can’t regenerate. We’ll have our answer if we go back to the present and Brogy has his arm back

 

[ShadowStyle369]

There was direct talk about it being a df ability so yeah Haki Transcends All!!!! Same shit different day.... invincible power shows up... willpower/haki crushes it. Oda rinses,lathers, and repeats this constantly.

 

[kekaro]

We dont even understand domi reversi to be retconned, silly

 

[Logiko]

It was already suspicious when Oda had rocks kill his family with no explanation for how he did it yet we showed that Garling can regenerate from Rock’s attacks and even the last panel of Garling impaled we know that Garling didn’t die so Rocks can’t actually kill him

And now we have this Domi Rocks fight where Rocks is bleeding throughout the entire fight and Roger and Garp never even mention once that Rocks is regenerating and onyl seem to care that Rocks has a CoC barrier around himself

And then Rocka gets seemingly defeated simply by doing “big damage” and that’s it. No mention of regeneration at all

Oda has retconed out that “undying body” statement from Gunko panel

 

[ImmaIvanoM]

Its a df ability, so haki should be able to conquer it.

Garling’s immortality is also a df ability isn’t it? Why didn’t haki let Rocks kill him?

There was direct talk about it being a df ability so yeah Haki Transcends All!!!! Same shit different day.... invincible power shows up... willpower/haki crushes it. Oda rinses,lathers, and repeats this constantly.

The discussion they have about a df ability is Roger thinking that Rocks isn’t taking damage because of a df ability… He’s wrong… Garp tells him they aren’t damaging rocks because Rocks is using too much CoC

so it’s literally the opposite of what you’re saying

We dont even understand domi reversi to be retconned, silly

Gunko’s statement about “undying body” has now been proven to not be true multiples times now

Brogy has his arm back

We saw his arm regenerating already.

 

[Welkin]

We saw his arm regenerating already.

So if Brogy can regenerate and he was Domi Reversi’d is that not the opposite of what you’re claiming?

Or do you think all Domi Reversi’s aren’t the same

 

[Monkey D Theories]

We never saw demons regenerate. Even Brogy didn’t actually regenerate, he just seems to be able to control his severed hand

 

[ShadowStyle369]

Garling’s immortality is also a df ability isn’t it? Why didn’t haki let Rocks kill him?


The discussion they have about a df ability is Roger thinking that Rocks isn’t taking damage because of a df ability… He’s wrong… Garp tells him they aren’t damaging rocks because Rocks is using too much CoC

so it’s literally the opposite of what you’re saying



Gunko’s statement about “undying body” has now been proven to not be true multiples times now


We saw his arm regenerating already.

To me though it's kinda confirming both of them to be right though.

1. Roger's words are true in itself. It should work, but he was only thinking in terms of df so they are doing enough for the regen to be ineffective. That's why we don't see it anymore.

2. Now haki transcends all it's not just the df power anymore as garp says it his coc haki they have to overcome to actually take him down.

Regardless haki transcends all... rinse,lather,and repeat. Its gonna be the same thing when we get back to the strawhats

 

[ImmaIvanoM]

You don’t speak English? Use google translate

So if Brogy can regenerate and he was Domi Reversi’d is that not the opposite of what you’re claiming?

Or do you think all Domi Reversi’s aren’t the same

my claim is that a retcon has happened

Like how originally Marco was able to make king bleed just by hitting him with a few kicks even when king’s fire mode was on. And then Zoro even cut king directly and made him bleed the very first attack he landed on him.

then two chapters later Oda introduces the idea that King is literally UNDAMAGEABLE if his flames are on.

that’s a retcon. It officially makes what happened prior no longer make any sense

Gunko said the Domi Reversi makes you immortal. And yet that’s not what’s true on God valley. That’s a retcon

We never saw demons regenerate. Even Brogy didn’t actually regenerate, he just seems to be able to control his severed hand

and what was Gunko talking about when she said “undying body”

so they are doing enough for the regen to be ineffective

Roger doesn’t know that Rocks should have regeneration. How can he be commenting on regeneration when he doesn’t know rocks has it and Oda doesn’t show that Rocks regenerates from a single thing the entire fight

And “Regardless haki transcends all” was a statement made by a complete idiot. Kaido is a fucking bum who doesn’t know shit. This guy was claiming that no one in the verse can defeat him, even though he knows Imu exists

Nothing Kaido says can be trusted

Rocks, the guy who knows way more about the world than Kaido or Roger explicitly says that it’s Two DFs that’s are required to put down Imu. Not super duper haki ++ or whatever the fuck that idiot Kaido was saying

 

[Logiko]

You don’t speak English? Use google translate

No, I just don't speak nonsense

 

[ImmaIvanoM]

No, I just don't speak nonsense

You seem fluent in it from what I’m seeing

 

[sanjikun]

I'm really pissed off at how Oda is handling this power. No explanation and all over the place.

Regen might be part of "Imu possession" but not "DR possession". But Idk.

 

[thisnewtechnique]

MCshit is unhealthy

It was already suspicious when Oda had rocks kill his family with no explanation for how he did it yet we showed that Garling can regenerate from Rock’s attacks and even the last panel of Garling impaled we know that Garling didn’t die so Rocks can’t actually kill him

And now we have this Domi Rocks fight where Rocks is bleeding throughout the entire fight and Roger and Garp never even mention once that Rocks is regenerating and onyl seem to care that Rocks has a CoC barrier around himself

And then Rocka gets seemingly defeated simply by doing “big damage” and that’s it. No mention of regeneration at all

Oda has retconed out that “undying body” statement from Gunko panel

Actually no, Rocks was just a special case

 

[Logiko]

You seem fluent in it from what I’m seeing

I'm really pissed off at how Oda is handling this power. No explanation and all over the place.

Regen might be part of "Imu possession" but not "DR possession". But Idk.

You seem fluent in it from what I’m seeing

Just wait before you complain. The point is for you to be confused at the moment. You have really been baby-sitted by other manga.. Be patient, enjoy the fucking tension! Stop trying to analyze a part of a quarter of information FFS

 

[ImmaIvanoM]

I'm really pissed off at how Oda is handling this power. No explanation and all over the place.

Regen might be part of "Imu possession" but not "DR possession". But Idk.

The Gorosei and hks aren’t possessed

the big issue is that Gunko directly says the Domi Broggy has “an undying body”

Actually no, Rocks was just a special case

And rocks’ family. He managed to kill them in Domi form and yet he failed to kill Garling

Just wait before you complain. The point is for you to be confused at the moment. You have really been baby-sitted by other manga.. Be patient, enjoy the fucking tension! Stop trying to analyze a part of a quarter of information FFS

Oh are you one of those guys who thinks Oda has never made a single mistake in the manga and has never retconed a single thing

oh, hilarious

 

[ShadowStyle369]

You don’t speak English? Use google translate

my claim is that a retcon has happened

Like how originally Marco was able to make king bleed just by hitting him with a few kicks even when king’s fire mode was on. And then Zoro even cut king directly and made him bleed the very first attack he landed on him.

then two chapters later Oda introduces the idea that King is literally UNDAMAGEABLE if his flames are on.

that’s a retcon. It officially makes what happened prior no longer make any sense

Gunko said the Domi Reversi makes you immortal. And yet that’s not what’s true on God valley. That’s a retcon

and what was Gunko talking about when she said “undying body”


Roger doesn’t know that Rocks should have regeneration. How can he be commenting on regeneration when he doesn’t know rocks has it and Oda doesn’t show that Rocks regenerates from a single thing the entire fight

And “Regardless haki transcends all” was a statement made by a complete idiot. Kaido is a fucking bum who doesn’t know shit. This guy was claiming that no one in the verse can defeat him, even though he knows Imu exists

Nothing Kaido says can be trusted

Rocks, the guy who knows way more about the world than Kaido or Roger explicitly says that it’s Two DFs that’s are required to put down Imu. Not super duper haki ++ or whatever the fuck that idiot Kaido was saying

Roger isn't commenting in the regen he is commenting on the df power. This is what I am saying.

1. Roger thought it was a df power therefore he concluded arnanent and coc coating should be working.

2. Gaban told us present day that coc coating is enough to defeat the hk with regen.

3.garp and Roger are doing enough to where the regen (assumption df power) doesn't matter.

4. Garp tells us it's not the fruit it's because he is also using his coc haki as defense that has to be surpassed.

This is all just another version if zoro vs king basically. Sure call kaido a idiot but that doesn't change the fact that garp and Roger haki transcended dr Rocks and his coc haki.

Regen was basically null and void at the level of haki being thrown around,but they still had to surpass his coc haki ultimately. Once roger/garp combined it was a done deal for the regen and the man himself

 

[Logiko]

Oh are you one of those guys who thinks Oda has never made a single mistake in the manga and has never retconed a single thing

oh, hilarious

Mate, I have criticisms of Oda's work that no one, not a SINGLE person on this damn forum, has even heard about before. Trust me that you are not the stargazing genius that you think by making bad narrative analysis like this one. Especially when you probably don't even understand what a retcon is. So give me a Effing break, wait for the information to be delivered & enjoy what you are reading for once.

 

[ImmaIvanoM]

have criticisms of Oda's work that no one, not a SINGLE p

I’m not talking about criticism, I’m talking about RETCONS. You know what retcons are? Like how the Luffy fruit was retconed into the Nika fruit? Or how Oda retconed King’s powers. A retcon.

have you never seen a single retcon in this man before?


My post, the Original post is about the fact that There is no regeneration anywhere in this fight. Neither Roger or Garp mention regeneration and Rocks himself never regenerates. The only thing about Rocks that is a problem is his CoC shield

whatever you think of Kaido’s statements, we have statements from less stupid guys like Rocks himself who thinks that actually Haki does not transcend all, and that you need special magical DFs to beat Imu