Questions & Mysteries About Roger-Kaido Haki level

#84
Shanks at best should be Roger level imo. Though I won't mind shanks being above old legends.
Dorry and Brogy met Roger yet they only compared Joyboys haki to that of Shanks. Perhaps Roger just passed through and never had to showcase his haki whereas Shanks apparently did at some point impressing the giants more. Or Roger was still young when passing Little Garden, just out of East Blue.

I could see Roger be at 101 or beyond because we are yet to see his true prime. If Kaidos words about Roger bringing the world (Imu?) to its knees actually happened at some point, the GV version might "only" be at 95 while the one that clashed with WB (that also gets an upscale by default) should be true prime of both.
 
#92
Like 75-80

Kaido is in a military standstill with Shanks who has no DF power meaning Kaido’s haki must necessarily be weaker
Shanks haki is stronger than rogers, so kaido's haki can be weaker than shanks and it stil doesn't help your argument
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Rose Rondo is the name of a legendary technique that Mihawk asked to see


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It's crazy how Vista did that legendary named technique, and Mihawk's nameless slash cut through it like butter

And then Vista had to struggle to deflect that nameless slash
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A stab and a slam is plenty for Kaido to get a taste of his power and rank him among top 5.


It is not headcanon that Kaido has fought all 5 of his top 5.


Not at all, I am literally telling you what the author said about Oden's strength.


Nice story when you look at isolated panels and ignore context.
Luffy is showing off DF Awakening and Kaido tells him that cannot conquer the seas and tells him about the only example that did conquer the seas, a DF-less Roger. This has never been about sucking off Roger but showing the example of haki conquering the seas.
Thus >Haki conquers everything and we proceed with scenes like Shanks/Joyboy's haki negating DFs...
This is literally Oda establishing a pecking order of haki>everything.


Oden is indeed not Roger's equal, because he is stronger.
Narrator literally confirmed this. In case, the only guy capable of leaving a scar wasnt enough of a hint.
Or that Oden said nobody can beat Kaido if he cant beat him.
You have to deny quite a lot of things to pretend like Oden isnt the strongest among Kaido's 5.
And for what? This guy? This is your hero?
I used to think this was the case but Oden's statement doesn't have to be interpreted that way:

"in reality this is in the context of a prophecy. It's a prophecy that pirates leading the next generation will strike down Kaido.

That doesn't inherently mean no one in the present day when this was written by oden is literally incapable of striking down Kaido.

Just that specifically these new Pirates will be the one to do it.

And the reason he says "If I am dead by then" is because he intended to do it. And he stated that this was a Kozuki matter when he chose not to accept any outside help.

But he's saying on the condition that he fails, these new pirates will be the ones to do it.

That doesn't mean on the condition that he fails, no one else in his time is capable of it.

When he fought kaido he already knew the prophecy, the void century and everything related, he knew big changes were going to happen in 20 years.

So his perspective was "if i fail it's up to them" Because he knows it's specifically their role to open Wano's borders.

That is why when he says "If I don't manage to strike down Kaido no one of our time will succeed" he's saying that it is fated for the bringers of change that arrive in 20 years to do it, and no one else.

Regardless of strength. It does not have to do with anyone else at that time being too weak to do it. "
 
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#93
Agenda Piece brings on brain rot. Some are now convinced Kizaru > Luffy, therefore Kaido is a fraud.
People say Shanks can take down Big Mom because he simply fired "one" shot at Ki

But Kaido simply has feats of speed superior to Shanks's, and his attack, if even Kid can spot him and a slug like Killer can intercept Shanks's signature attack, then things aren't looking good for him in terms of speed.

 
#94
Fucktard, that's literally what a "military standstill" is. It would be too brutal.

Ace said I'll do it myself, and WB says, not "even Oden could take him down".
and retard, part of that military standstill is kaido having insane turf advantage and defenses. not to mention wano civvies to use as hostages and shields.

put the 100 hostage pirates on the sea or a random uninhabited island against the wbp and they get fucked in the ass
 
#96
People say Shanks can take down Big Mom because he simply fired "one" shot at Ki

But Kaido simply has feats of speed superior to Shanks's, and his attack, if even Kid can spot him and a slug like Killer can intercept Shanks's signature attack, then things aren't looking good for him in terms of speed.

Kaido has the best feats by far, of any normal character

Imo Shanks has stronger haki than Kaido, but it isn't strong enough to overpower Kaido's haki + fruit + physical strength
 
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