Role Madness Frieren: Beyond Journey's End

[Rej]

MAMBO

 

[Michelle]

You start to suspect me after I claim vig… it’s terrible. Why would Rohan’s D1 post matter in the slightest? He’s claimed PGO, he had zero information about the vig or lack thereof. There’s pretty much always a vig

if you’re argument is that I should have reacted to it, then that’s even worse

Alexis played aroud a vig claim day 1 and I don't remember a reaction from you. Indeed there's a possibility you wouldn't out yourself as experienced player but also Alexis was pretty bad in his push all day and you gave him a town read. Nothing would make me think you are a vig.
It's hard to not see your push on Melkor until Eod as a bad one, I keep come back at it in my mind.
Your vig claim doesn't make anything to me alignment related.

 

[Ratchet]

I wouldn’t give him a chance for his pushes if he was wrong every time. He‘s improved quite a bit.

I mean he tends to scum read the same people every game, he does this so that when they flip he can decide whether to follow their legacy or not. I think the last 8 games I've played with him, not including this one, he's scum read me almost straight away. I was town in at least half of them. I don't really feel like he deserves anything for so-called accuracy, when someone rolls scum more than average you're going to look accurate but there's no actual process there.

 

[Ratchet]

Alexis played aroud a vig claim day 1 and I don't remember a reaction from you. Indeed there's a possibility you wouldn't out yourself as experienced player but also Alexis was pretty bad in his push all day and you gave him a town read. Nothing would make me think you are a vig.
It's hard to not see your push on Melkor until Eod as a bad one, I keep come back at it in my mind.
Your vig claim doesn't make anything to me alignment related.

The problem is Michelle he has an onus to support his vig claim which is why it's usually a pretty bad claim for scum. Unless mafia have extra killing power (more than one) it's not something I see him trying. Also I think it makes sense to not react to Alexis' silliness with a counterclaim, especially when it's well within range for Alexis to perform something like that.

 

[Michelle]

Also are we happy with the current state? There is no counter wagon or anything. Also the activity is kinda thin. I went to sleep and only 2 more pages...

What's the take off this low activity?

 

[Michelle]

The problem is Michelle he has an onus to support his vig claim which is why it's usually a pretty bad claim for scum. Unless mafia have extra killing power (more than one) it's not something I see him trying. Also I think it makes sense to not react to Alexis' silliness with a counterclaim, especially when it's well within range for Alexis to perform something like that.

I agree we kill Tepig and go from there but if he flips anything than mafia I am going to scum read Poyser.

 

[Ratchet]

I agree we kill Tepig and go from there but if he flips anything than mafia I am going to scum read Poyser.

I wouldn't go there immediately to be honest. Also I should point out that vig is the one roll you can avoid counterclaiming ever because you can just shoot the one claiming your role instead.

 

[Ratchet]

I don't think you're weak. You're a stronger player than me and you are usually better at reads than me early game. I know where my weaknesses are.

So why did you say he needs to do more and is playing weak then?

 

[BigTimeAnimeMan]

Alexis played aroud a vig claim day 1 and I don't remember a reaction from you. Indeed there's a possibility you wouldn't out yourself as experienced player but also Alexis was pretty bad in his push all day and you gave him a town read. Nothing would make me think you are a vig.
It's hard to not see your push on Melkor until Eod as a bad one, I keep come back at it in my mind.
Your vig claim doesn't make anything to me alignment related.

I don’t care who talks about being vig on D1, I’m not gonna react to it because I’m not terrible. There’s loads of players like Alexis who think doing dumb shit like that is clever, it doesn’t mean anything to me

not really sure what was bad about my push on Melkor tbh, or why you’ve only just brought it up now rather than yesterday or earlier this phase

the last line is just you being bad as a player, because a vig claim with no counter claim and no janitor is town about 99.5% of the time. If you don’t wanna play the numbers the you do you, but it’s piss poor

 

[BigTimeAnimeMan]

So why did you say he needs to do more and is playing weak then?

I forgot about this interaction lmao

 

[Rej]

What's the take off this low activity?

Idk what the scenarios are. For fun's sake lemme list em all:

1. All/most players are europeans or so and will pick up activity around EoD.

2. We hit scum and now scum is taking a back seat and is not fighting back.

3. We are wrong with the lynch and scum let's us fight each other. Like how do you call it, scum being content with the current situation?

Pick your poison or where you see yourself lol.

 

[Flower]

Morning.

 

[BigTimeAnimeMan]

If tepig is scum then his team aren’t gonna fight it. He’s basically dead to rights in that scenario lol, would be suicide

if he was town id actually be expecting more people to try and look good, but its possible he’s town and scum are just happy to take the lynch also

 

[Rej]

If tepig is scum then his team aren’t gonna fight it. He’s basically dead to rights in that scenario lol, would be suicide

if he was town id actually be expecting more people to try and look good, but its possible he’s town and scum are just happy to take the lynch also

I am straight up saying it tho, since when I am wolf I also bus. So if i were tepig's scum mate I would do one of 2 things:

Either polarize more and feed into another lynch option.

Or just bus him down atp.

Or well the third option is to be silent about it.

The above 2 are stronger options imho, the third one, the bonus option is kinda throwy.

So idk if I see anything like that here right now. I think for sure that bussing tepig atp is a viable strategy if it comes down to it.

 

[Michelle]

I wouldn't go there immediately to be honest. Also I should point out that vig is the one roll you can avoid counterclaiming ever because you can just shoot the one claiming your role instead.

But he didn't do that, he went for the cw (which is towny in a way but also if tepig is town I can't say for sure it's towny, that if the claim is true, but I doubt it)

I don’t care who talks about being vig on D1, I’m not gonna react to it because I’m not terrible. There’s loads of players like Alexis who think doing dumb shit like that is clever, it doesn’t mean anything to me

not really sure what was bad about my push on Melkor tbh, or why you’ve only just brought it up now rather than yesterday or earlier this phase

the last line is just you being bad as a player, because a vig claim with no counter claim and no janitor is town about 99.5% of the time. If you don’t wanna play the numbers the you do you, but it’s piss poor

I said previously you could observe the lack of interest for the Eod lynch but you kept pushing Melkor. You ignored me and honestly I don't care if you tell me I am a bad player for not trusting your claim.
If tepig flips town you say oops and switch to the next townie in the Poe.
Claiming vig while powerwolfing is not such a hard thing to do

 

[Flower]

But he didn't do that, he went for the cw (which is towny in a way but also if tepig is town I can't say for sure it's towny, that if the claim is true, but I doubt it)

I said previously you could observe the lack of interest for the Eod lynch but you kept pushing Melkor. You ignored me and honestly I don't care if you tell me I am a bad player for not trusting your claim.
If tepig flips town you say oops and switch to the next townie in the Poe.
Claiming vig while powerwolfing is not such a hard thing to do

Yeah, but Fuji still doesn’t give Vig fakes. If there was a Janitor I‘d be more wary since he once took a Vig fake in the Witcher game. But there wasn’t one. So he‘s like 99% legit.

 

[Ratchet]

I'm trying something new, a sort of litmus test. You got testy about it rather than ignoring it. It leans good for you in favor of being town.

I also do not like how Ekko is ghosting this game but it is not necessarily indicative of being scum.

Why does that indicate town for you?

 

[Ratchet]

Im not sure how much I believe this lmao, although I struggle to see it coming from you as scum

Had the same thought tbh

 

[Flower]

Also I have a group project at uni this afternoon and then I‘m at a party, so I‘m busy until like midnight. Please no early hammers.

 

[BigTimeAnimeMan]

But he didn't do that, he went for the cw (which is towny in a way but also if tepig is town I can't say for sure it's towny, that if the claim is true, but I doubt it)

I said previously you could observe the lack of interest for the Eod lynch but you kept pushing Melkor. You ignored me and honestly I don't care if you tell me I am a bad player for not trusting your claim.
If tepig flips town you say oops and switch to the next townie in the Poe.
Claiming vig while powerwolfing is not such a hard thing to do

It is a hard thing to do though isn’t it, since there is a real vig in 99% of games