Role Madness Frieren: Beyond Journey's End

I am straight up saying it tho, since when I am wolf I also bus. So if i were tepig's scum mate I would do one of 2 things:

Either polarize more and feed into another lynch option.

Or just bus him down atp.

Or well the third option is to be silent about it.

The above 2 are stronger options imho, the third one, the bonus option is kinda throwy.

So idk if I see anything like that here right now. I think for sure that bussing tepig atp is a viable strategy if it comes down to it.
Well he’s on 6 votes, if he’s mafia then there will be mafia there no doubt

there is info against him, so trying to push for another lynch just isn’t worth the risk as he’s almost certainly gonna get lynched anyway lol
 

Ratchet

The End and the Beginning
do you even know what the current game topic is about though lol

the entire basis for the rej vs ekko is rej wants to policy me, presumably cuz he's salty i sweeped the AB game off the back of mislynching him day 1, but alsohe could potentially be using all of that context as a crutch as scum here. this is why we're having a discussion about it to determine if he's genuine in his misrepresentation of my play

he started the game wanting to yeet me so there is obv a degree of bad faith in play here. he's comf biasing everything possible to make me appear scum, now it's our job to determine if this comes from town or otherwise, and a good starting point is to dissect the previous game since it was rej's primary starting point

does that make sense?
Problem with this is though I don't think you've given due consideration for Rej being salty as a plausible explanation here. You've acknowledged it and then said "well he could be crutching it too" which isn't really clear as a secondary interpretation from your posts up until now.

I think I recall reading Ekko subbed out somewhere, was it for tepig?
 

Ratchet

The End and the Beginning
for that to be a pattern you need to establish if i had voted you before in a similar manner, which i hadn't

i do agree my vote or entrance was not strong and im fine with that, im playing support here so it's ok. i didnt have a read on you when i voted, i did to support alexis

i started leaning scum on you as i caught up, now im a bit on the fence because of how you handled this interaction. im thinking its a bit too destructive for mafia
This however does feel more nuanced.
 
Yeah, but Fuji still doesn’t give Vig fakes. If there was a Janitor I‘d be more wary since he once took a Vig fake in the Witcher game. But there wasn’t one. So he‘s like 99% legit.
I am strongly against host's habits solve, flavour solve, clearing people for claims and so on. We can consider the claims but the play is what shows the colour, not how the host is giving the roles or possible fake claims.

We don't know if there's a janitor or not, maybe the mafia kill just failed for a reason and the janitor failed with it. That would mean RA being swapped with Tepig can be a possibile mafia action and that makes Tepig locked scum and the vig lock town.
In this world you as cop would probably be let to have a peek because most cops would check the cw and also a mafia member can be GF with interest to become your target, thing that shows towards your D1 scum reads, please remind me who you suspected (but since there's not just 2 in the mafia team I consider you were their N1)

The whole Alexis push started from nothing except a whimsical scum read of Rej's first post in the game and since he lied that much Idk how much weight I can put on his RB claim, he pretends he wouldn't lie on mechs but he already made too many mistakes to be trusted. The Mafia kill could fail because bittersweet protected you and then the RB on Rej doesn't mean anything, but he doesn't have anything else than the idea that Rej is scum and a team he constructed around that which I know it's wrong because he put me in it.
 
You’re missing the point about the janitor lol. Her point is that if a janitor has been used successfully, then you can doubt a vig claim that doesn’t have a proven shot, because there’s a chance that person is claiming the janitored role and isn’t actually a vig

obviously not the case here, because I’ve claimed vig and there hasn’t been a janitor. Do you remember the last game you played that didn’t have a vig?
 
You’re missing the point about the janitor lol. Her point is that if a janitor has been used successfully, then you can doubt a vig claim that doesn’t have a proven shot, because there’s a chance that person is claiming the janitored role and isn’t actually a vig

obviously not the case here, because I’ve claimed vig and there hasn’t been a janitor. Do you remember the last game you played that didn’t have a vig?
I remember the game where I was a conditional vig and i couldn't kill anyone :catcry:

But no, vig exist in all games here, that's correct
 
I am strongly against host's habits solve, flavour solve, clearing people for claims and so on. We can consider the claims but the play is what shows the colour, not how the host is giving the roles or possible fake claims.

We don't know if there's a janitor or not, maybe the mafia kill just failed for a reason and the janitor failed with it. That would mean RA being swapped with Tepig can be a possibile mafia action and that makes Tepig locked scum and the vig lock town.
In this world you as cop would probably be let to have a peek because most cops would check the cw and also a mafia member can be GF with interest to become your target, thing that shows towards your D1 scum reads, please remind me who you suspected (but since there's not just 2 in the mafia team I consider you were their N1)

The whole Alexis push started from nothing except a whimsical scum read of Rej's first post in the game and since he lied that much Idk how much weight I can put on his RB claim, he pretends he wouldn't lie on mechs but he already made too many mistakes to be trusted. The Mafia kill could fail because bittersweet protected you and then the RB on Rej doesn't mean anything, but he doesn't have anything else than the idea that Rej is scum and a team he constructed around that which I know it's wrong because he put me in it.
Ekko/Tepig
RA
Melkor
Yoho
Hayumi

were my PoE D1.
 

Ratchet

The End and the Beginning
It's a bit weird because on play if I really put a gun to my head I would say I think Ekko is town on play. The way he's getting stuck on rej doesn't really feel like he's trying to farm him. But the mech strongly implicates that slot and I can't see a way past resolving it. I do think the scenario of a busdrive can work but even then it implicates him unless we're dealing with terrorist scum who just do whatever without thinking, in which case there's no reason the RA kill isn't just a kill they make anyway. I'm also not getting much in the way of scum vibes from anyone so far, though I have a fair few town reads.
 
I remember the game where I was a conditional vig and i couldn't kill anyone :catcry:

But no, vig exist in all games here, that's correct
Tbh the vig not getting a shot off usually ends up a benefit to town lmao

they seem to be a hindrance more than a help the majority of the time. When I get vig I try very hard to battle my ego and not go for the hero shot lmao. Just try and clear out the poe

like I very very nearly shot flower last night, and decided not to because if I was wrong it could be catastrophic for this game

funnily enough, the other person I considered was RA, but I decided against because he had so little posts I figured we wouldn’t get anything out of it whether he’s town or scum
 
Tbh the vig not getting a shot off usually ends up a benefit to town lmao

they seem to be a hindrance more than a help the majority of the time. When I get vig I try very hard to battle my ego and not go for the hero shot lmao. Just try and clear out the poe

like I very very nearly shot flower last night, and decided not to because if I was wrong it could be catastrophic for this game

funnily enough, the other person I considered was RA, but I decided against because he had so little posts I figured we wouldn’t get anything out of it whether he’s town or scum
Well, it would have been worse than Cubey killing his own Backup in Sky‘s game.
 
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