Every time we get the same tired stuff of "Oh Vergo (or Doflamingo, or any other character that upscales Doffy) is actually secretly super strong and is Commander level" or "Rayleigh is a bum because he was carrying his girlfriend instead of leaving her to her own devices in an active warzone and fighting like an idiot" or some shit about Roger being a fraud or Zoro vs Sanji or Mihawk vs Shanks or whatever else
There's no new or innovative discussions here we just repeat things that were funny or interesting for a little while and milk them dry