Controversial General Political Discussion

[Blax Blah]

i know someone with very severe depression to the point where he doesnt function properly without using weed regularly.

and its still used in several medical ways, like against chronic pain, migraine, nausea, epilepsy, multiple sclerosis

You know, this is Paul's advice to Timothy:



1 Timothy 5:23
23 Drink no longer water, but use a little wine for thy stomach's sake and thine often infirmities.

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But the Bible is also against getting drunk:

1 Peter 5:8-9
8 Be sober, be vigilant; because your adversary the devil, as a roaring lion, walketh about, seeking whom he may devour:

9 Whom resist stedfast in the faith, knowing that the same afflictions are accomplished in your brethren that are in the world.

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Ephesians 5:18 - And be not drunk with wine, wherein is excess; but be filled with the Spirit;

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Proverbs 20:1 - Wine is a mocker, strong drink is raging: and whosoever is deceived thereby is not wise.

Romans 13:13 - Let us walk honestly, as in the day; not in rioting and drunkenness, not in chambering and wantonness, not in strife and envying.
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"i dont know much about it" - "it fries your mind and makes you dependent on it"

you should look into it more, because you are wrong

I don't know much about it as in about its medicinal use, there's no room for doubt in my mind about the fries your mind and makes you dependent thing, there are a lot of testimonies about that from people who used to use it

 

[Zenos7]

The appropriate age according to some experts in psychosis is after 25 or 30. After the brain is fully developed.

But that's only for psychosis. There are obvious risks with weed that are most of the time neglected.

Of course it's minimal risks for lots of people. But ignoring its potential bad sides is hypocrisy.

It's not even specifically about the dose or strength of the weed. Everyone's organism is different.

1) The medical professionals i personally know tell me its around age 25 (i started at age 23, didnt know that at the time ._.)
2) yes there are risks, which is why i said its not for everyone
3) sure, everyones organism is different, but the principle i talked about is still true for toxic substances.

for example, botox is extremely toxic and is still safely used in cosmetic context
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I don't know much about it as in its medicinal use, there's no room for doubt in my mind about the fries your mind and makes you dependent thing, there are a lot of testimonies about that from people who used to use it

weed has a fairly low addiction potential, not at all comparable to tobacco or some hard drugs.

 

[AL sama]

religious logic alone can't win you a debate these days

weed can be good or bad depending on the person and situation

btw fyi I don't smoke drink or anything like that

 

[Mathias]

Blax is quoting the Bible like no one in this forum could even dream to quote One Piece

1) The medical professional i personally know tell me its around age 25 (i started at age 23, didnt know that at the time ._.)
2) yes there are risks, which is why i said its not for everyone
3) sure, everyones organism is different, but the principle i talked about is still true for toxic substances.

for example, botox is extremely toxic and is still safely used in cosmetic context

People most of the time can't know if it's risky for them.

Botox is injected by a medical professional. Weed is purchased on telegram and smoked with beer and pizza.

Anyway, I'm in favor of legalizing weed. Just dropping some arguments because I often read on this forum that weed is harmless.

 

[coolio]

Not yet. If you observe what I'm saying. I believe Oda has a special plan for Carrot. A plan that I might have mistaken for a recruitment, but a plan nonetheless.

You and me both.

 

[Blax Blah]

Blax is quoting the Bible like no one in this forum could even dream to quote One Piece

Mathias when you talk about me having a lot of faith or me quoting the Bible so much or when Bisoromi Bear calls me bible bot, it's pretty encouraging and I think that makes me sound very cool
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I must be doing some stuff right if this is how I'm known, it's the kind of reputation I'm looking for

 

[Zenos7]

People most of the time can't know if it's risky for them.

Botox is injected by a medical professional. Weed is purchased on telegram and smoked with beer and pizza.

Anyway, I'm in favor of legalizing weed. Just dropping some arguments because I often read on this forum that weed is harmless.

you are pointing to a huge issue, where we get the weed from. if you get it on telegram (wtf?) or from gangs it might be diluted with other shit. But, we live in a great day and age where weed has medical applications and is therefore grown for medical purposes. If one has access to medical cannabis, thats great. So you can get weed from a medical professional, just like you can get botox from medical professionals.

People most of the time can't know if it's risky for them.

exactly, which is why its important to start with small doses if you want to try it out

 

[Mathias]

Mathias when you talk about me having a lot of faith or me quoting the Bible so much or when Bisoromi Bear calls me bible bot, it's pretty encouraging and I think that makes me sound very cool
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I must be doing some stuff right if this is how I'm known, it's the kind of reputation I'm looking for

I'm just describing what I see. I've never seen someone quoting the Bible so much on a forum.

However I think that you should open your mind to science theories such as the Bigbang, the Evolution or just History of mankind and its religions. Being religious isn't a problem for these theories and has never been.

The Bigbang theory was created by religious scientists for instance.

you are pointing to a huge issue, where we get the weed from. if you get it on telegram (wtf?) or from gangs it might be diluted with other shit. But, we live in a great day and age where weed has medical applications and is therefore grown for medical purposes. If one has access to medical cannabis, thats great. So you can get weed from a medical professional, just like you can get botox from medical professionals.



exactly, which is why its important to start with small doses if you want to try it out

Not every country has legalised weed which is why I said it must be legalised and also put under tight control.

And what’s the wtf about telegram ? Lots of people message their dealers there and have it delivered or others go in the hood to buy it there. Not every country has weed shops.

 

[Zenos7]

Not every country has legalised weed which is why I said it must be legalised and also put under tight control.

And what’s the wtf about telegram ? Lots of people message their dealers there and have it delivered or others go in the hood to buy it there. Not every country has weed shops.

yeah i didnt know about this telegram stuff, thats what the wtf is about lol.

in such cases, one should be really careful with consumption. I started using medical cannabis like a year ago, and its so much better in every regard its crazy.
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Evolution

over the course of this discussion i also thought about this topic because i have a feeling @Blax Blah might be denying evolution.

So im just going to refer to a past post of mine about this:

Just going to share an evolutionary biologist thats also a christian (maybe that helps?!) adressing creationist arguments. He has two more videos like this, going over even more arguments.

Generally a nice channel.

 

[Jew D. Boy]

 

[Blax Blah]

I'm just describing what I see. I've never seen someone quoting the Bible so much on a forum.

Thanks





You know though, while weed is not normal here as far as I know, cigarettes and alcohol are, I guess if you are already burning your body's insides, and drinking poison, you can justify adding one more substance that hurts your mind

I'm just describing what I see. I've never seen someone quoting the Bible so much on a forum.

However I think that you should open your mind to science theories such as the Bigbang, the Evolution or just History of mankind and its religions. Being religious isn't a problem for these theories and has never been.

The Bigbang theory was created by religious scientists for instance.

over the course of this discussion i also thought about this topic because i have a feeling @Blax Blah might be denying evolution.

So im just going to refer to a past post of mine about this:

Just because I can be a christian and also believe in evolution, doesn't mean I'm going to believe in evolution

I'm not in a situation where I am convinced by evolution, but reject it due to being christian, I'm just not convinced by evolution




I think it is weird though that you guys consider destroying your bodies and minds to feel good and be a positive in your life, but find an issue with someone not believing creatures adapt so much over time that they branch out into another species




Psalm 34:21-22
21 Evil shall slay the wicked: and they that hate the righteous shall be desolate.

22 The Lord redeemeth the soul of his servants: and none of them that trust in him shall be desolate.

 

[NikaInParis]

Thanks





You know though, while weed is not normal here as far as I know, cigarettes and alcohol are, I guess if you are already burning your body's insides, and drinking poison, you can justify adding one more substance that hurts your mind










Just because I can be a christian and also believe in evolution, doesn't mean I'm going to believe in evolution

I'm not in a situation where I am convinced by evolution, but reject it due to being christian, I'm just not convinced by evolution




I think it is weird though that you guys consider destroying your bodies and minds to feel good and be a positive in your life, but find an issue with someone not believing creatures adapt so much over time that they branch out into another species




Psalm 34:21-22
21 Evil shall slay the wicked: and they that hate the righteous shall be desolate.

22 The Lord redeemeth the soul of his servants: and none of them that trust in him shall be desolate.

A piece of advice from another religious person:

Don't proselytize on online forums not meant for serious discussion.

This is mainly an anime/manga forum where people come to be unserious and let off some steam.

(I see the irony of me.posting this in the Politics thread, but the bigger irony is the existance of a politics thread on an anime forum imo.)

I suspect what you think - the message of religion can reach people through the most unsuspecting ways. And that is true.

However...

I certainly am not a religious scholar so my only hope of converting someone is through my actions i.e. charity, prayer, doing good to my fellow man etc.
Engaging in religious debate is never the way to go. I see it all the time on youtube where all these religious speakers set up shop somewhere on the street and it nearly always boils down to a yelling contest.

Substitute "yelling" for "emote posting" and "trolling" and you have a forum religious debate.

If anyone is truly interested in any given religion, the sincere thing to do is get in touch with scholars and primary sources.

 

[Zenos7]

but find an issue with someone not believing creatures adapt so much over time that they branch out into another species

Well with evolution its more of accepting vs denying. No believing needed.

I can share some other video in addition to the one above, since will duffy started to learn about evolution on youtube through another youtuber that is well versed in evolution , first 3hour long course dropped a week ago.

Will duffy is the guy who brought the last experiment to life, in which he paid for a couple of flat earthers and glober to go to antarctica and watch the 24 hour sun that isnt possible on a flat earth.

And now he is challenging his own rejection of evolution,pretty interesting.

And like an hour into the video about evolution he is saying he didnt hear like 90 percent of this information. Which makes sense because creationists usually get information on evolution from other creationists and they know very little about it.

I think it is weird though that you guys consider destroying your bodies and minds to feel good and be a positive in your life

Well thats some oversimplification of what i have been trying to tell you about these.
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see it all the time on youtube where all these religious speakers set up shop somewhere on the street

Like uthman ibn farooq?

Or speakers corner?

 

[Blax Blah]

A piece of advice from another religious person:

Don't proselytize on online forums not meant for serious discussion.

This is mainly an anime/manga forum where people come to be unserious and let off some steam.

(I see the irony of me.posting this in the Politics thread, but the bigger irony is the existance of a politics thread on an anime forum imo.)

I suspect what you think - the message of religion can reach people through the most unsuspecting ways. And that is true.

However...

I certainly am not a religious scholar so my only hope of converting someone is through my actions i.e. charity, prayer, doing good to my fellow man etc.
Engaging in religious debate is never the way to go. I see it all the time on youtube where all these religious speakers set up shop somewhere on the street and it nearly always boils down to a yelling contest.

Substitute "yelling" for "emote posting" and "trolling" and you have a forum religious debate.

If anyone is truly interested in any given religion, the sincere thing to do is get in touch with scholars and primary sources.

I appreciate the help and intentions, but I don't think about it that much, I'm just here so I talk about it, and some people here are interested in talking about it

 

[Zenos7]

You know though, while weed is not normal here as far as I know, cigarettes and alcohol are, I guess if you are already burning your body's insides, and drinking poison, you can justify adding one more substance that hurts your mind

No, one shouldnt smoke tobacco, and also smoke weed without it.

And all in moderation, not excess.

And like, did you miss me mention how we use actually seriously toxic shit like botox safely in a cosmetic context?

 

[Blax Blah]

Well with evolution its more of accepting vs denying. No believing needed.

I can share some other video in addition to the one above, since will duffy started to learn about evolution on youtube through another youtuber that is well versed in evolution , first 3hour long course dropped a week ago.

Will duffy is the guy who brought the last experiment to life, in which he paid for a couple of flat earthers and glober to go to antarctica and watch the 24 hour sun that isnt possible on a flat earth.

And now he is challenging his own rejection of evolution,pretty interesting.

And like an hour into the video about evolution he is saying he didnt hear like 90 percent of this information. Which makes sense because creationists usually get information on evolution from other creationists and they know very little about it.



Well thats some oversimplification of what i have been trying to tell you about these.

Sure you can share them and I may look into them in the future, if you consider it an issue of deny vs accept then I'm fine with being called a denier

 

[NikaInParis]

Well with evolution its more of accepting vs denying. No believing needed.

I can share some other video in addition to the one above, since will duffy started to learn about evolution on youtube through another youtuber that is well versed in evolution , first 3hour long course dropped a week ago.

Will duffy is the guy who brought the last experiment to life, in which he paid for a couple of flat earthers and glober to go to antarctica and watch the 24 hour sun that isnt possible on a flat earth.

And now he is challenging his own rejection of evolution,pretty interesting.

And like an hour into the video about evolution he is saying he didnt hear like 90 percent of this information. Which makes sense because creationists usually get information on evolution from other creationists and they know very little about it.



Well thats some oversimplification of what i have been trying to tell you about these.
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Like uthman ibn farooq?

Or speakers corner?

Ali Dawah and Hijab, the new christian guy that goes around campuses (don't know the name, he has a darker complexion, short hair and short beard), Charlie Kirk, David Wood (more a debater but still) etc

 

[Zenos7]

Ali Dawah and Hijab, the new christian guy that goes around campuses (don't know the name, he has a darker complexion, short hair and short beard), Charlie Kirk, David Wood (more a debater but still) etc

Ye david wood is barely doing any apologetics, he has been in full anti-islam mode for years now.

The first 2 are a big oof for me, dont know the new christian guy yet.


I like bob the builder from speakers corner

 

[Blax Blah]

Ye david wood is barely doing any apologetics, he has been in full anti-islam mode for years now.

The first 2 are a big oof for me, dont know the new christian guy yet.


I like bob the builder from speakers corner

David Wood and the Apostate Prophet person give me a really bad impression with their politics

 

[NikaInParis]

Ye david wood is barely doing any apologetics, he has been in full anti-islam mode for years now.

The first 2 are a big oof for me, dont know the new christian guy yet.


I like bob the builder from speakers corner

Personally, the only speakers corner content I watch is the ocassional Muslim Lanter video
His personal streams are great too.