Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1166 Spoilers Discussion

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Lasheen is just yapping today, rn he’s arguing in the waiting room thread that Tom was yapping about his top secret Pluton blueprints to cover up the plot hole of Shiki starting the Edd War over Roger knowing the location of Ancient Weapons, when that wouldn’t be possible until Lolden joined his crew
Dude all I said is that in ten years from now it’s possible Shiki heard about the Pluton plans like CP5 did.

The Edd War was a canon event lmao
 
that every legal citizen has to abide.
The Gorosei and marines break these laws all the time and yet they aren’t considered criminals while breaking the law

It’s hilarious that you consider me childish for having the nuance to understand that none of these labels mean anything

hilarious. You think being “mature” is following meaningless labels?
 
At least Garling did try to take on Rocks before and at the end he did still kill him.(Even though he was already defeated)

The other God's Knights either didn't do anything or were just seen killing random fodders.

And then there is the bum Silver Axe who did absolutely nothing and did not have any notable role, other than getting kicked by Marco's dad.
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Well yea there was too much to gain for the Marines there. Ace was to be used as an example for the pirate world. He's a symbol.

So what you're asking is Garp should have fought the top brass to just lock him up instead of executing him? Breaking him out is out of question.
This is such moral bankruptcy it is idiotic. Garp already defied them and let countless babies around the world get slaughtered via keeping Ace secret. If the bastard was willing to break out his son, he should have done the same for Ace, or sold Ace to the dogs ages ago and at least saved some innocent babys from his fellow monstrous Marines.

Garp lost ANY claim to righteousness and not being a dogshit person when he sprung Dragon from jail and did not leave with him / make a stand then and there. The fact he remaiend a Marine after God Valley where he kept his goddamn memory about one of his World Government bosses literally being a Spider Demon piloted by the Devil is the icing on the cake.

FUCK any Garp defenders I do not care.
 
Imo it's beyond silly to try to paint all the hundreds and hundreds of marines on GV as some imaginary "bad apples" group precisely because of how Dragon ties into this whole subplot story-wise. The whole narrative point of the Dragon subplot conflict is to establish the baseline of marine morality (aka ultimately complying with spamming cannonballs against civilians desperately escaping a genocide game) to contrast it with the ONE oddball exception that manifested under such circumstances. There would be little point (and even less weight or impact) to Dragon's defiance and later disenchantment with the Navy if what we saw marines do en masse on GV could not be extrapolated to most of the organization.
 

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The Gorosei and marines break these laws all the time and yet they aren’t considered criminals while breaking the law

It’s hilarious that you consider me childish for having the nuance to understand that none of these labels mean anything

hilarious. You think being “mature” is following meaningless labels?
Are you alright, or do you need your morning coffee? This whole discussion started because the point was Ace signed up to be a criminal first and foremost. Dragon made a spur of the moment decision. He didn't head into GV to be a criminal. Ace literally planned for a criminal life when he started his journey. Two very different things.
 
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