Speculations What did Gaban tell Sanji?

#22
Personally, I think it will be something where in Gaban will tell Sanji that a conqueror that is divided is no conqueror at all, embrace who you are wholly? Basically telling Sanji that he needs to embrace his Germa side as a part of who he is fully. (I think would be cliche, but this is Oda so it could just be that simple)

Or something which i like better would be, Gaban tells Sanji that he does not have a conquering spirit but that which lurks within you does. Basically telling him that his alter ego is the conqueror.

Sanji: Hey Old Man, what about me?!
Gaban: Black Leg Sanji, I've heard of your exploits, though strong you may be, the will to dominate to enforce your will to make others bow, you do not possess.
Sanji:- (Dejected) No, so moss is... I don't have it
Gaban:- However, there resides another in you, one who has the will to subjugate who you must cede control to, only then will the conquering king reveal himself.
Sanji: Hey, what do you mean there's another me?
Gaban:- Exactly, what I meant - your other half Black Leg, the one who you have struggled to keep suppressed, the one whose visage terrifies you, the one whom you are afraid to give control to, the one whom you must release from the shackles of your insecurity.
Sanji:- H-h-hey, you dont mean that that Vinsmoke guy!
Gaban: A house divided against itself will fall, young man! Unless you can conquer your heart, how can you conquer the will of others.
Sanji:- How can I be sure he won't...I won't lose control?
Gaban:- Whilst you may not have a heart to conquer others, you Black Leg have the power to conquer yourself.
Sanji:- How?!
Gaban:- The Power of Love is a funny thing - though it can never be used to subjugate others, it can be used to dominate one's self. If you stay true to who you are, even the darkest depths of evil will cover at the blinding light of love.
I definitely see where you’re going with this and I can respect the theory crafting

It’s just that there’s a slight leap in logic required for this (and really almost anything else it could be) to work. Gaban would have to magically know a lot about Sanji specifically for it to make sense

That’s why whatever was said between them is so intriguing to me. Unless Gaban paid extra special attention to Sanji (without ever meeting or at least being referred to him by someone else like Luffy with Shanks) it wouldn’t make sense for him to know all this

The whole thing is weird
 
#27
I definitely see where you’re going with this and I can respect the theory crafting

It’s just that there’s a slight leap in logic required for this (and really almost anything else it could be) to work. Gaban would have to magically know a lot about Sanji specifically for it to make sense

That’s why whatever was said between them is so intriguing to me. Unless Gaban paid extra special attention to Sanji (without ever meeting or at least being referred to him by someone else like Luffy with Shanks) it wouldn’t make sense for him to know all this

The whole thing is weird
Gaban seems to have an insane level of observation haki able to sense even those concealing their presence. Also the fact that Gaban calls himself a missionary of love is quite telling. If anyone would know how the Power of Love could be used it would be Gaban.
 

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#33
Whatever he told Sanji, I think Sanji's potential has been nullified by Oda, from the time when the crew first met with Sanji at the Baratie, arguably on pararell with Zoro atm, to when he saved the crew at Arlong Park ... Sky island was Sanji's shining arc, even enies Lobby, with the revelation of his Diable Jambe.
From the time-skip onwards Sanji lost all his potential, more of a side-character that is interested in trivial matters more than fighting the enemy top generals/members.
I don't want to have any more hopes only for oda to shit on them.
 
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