Character Discussion Wano is a great arc and Kaido is a great villain

Orojackson Refugee

Orojackson Refugee

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It is the post timeskip arc with most engagement. Just see this spoiler thread
https://worstgen.alwaysdata.net/forum/threads/one-piece-chapter-1022-spoilers-discussion.16238/
Wano has some of the most active discussion in this forum. It introduces major power such as G5, Ashura, Ifrit Jambe that the fandom wanks like there is no day tomorrow.

Kaido was a mighty foe that wrecked luffy the most time compared to other villains. The fact that Kaido is still discussed until now shows his significance as top fighters in this series. Kaido has reached iconic level. He is the Madara/Thanos of this series. :endthis:
 
Djordje

Djordje

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Wano is trash and everyone knows it , especially if you consider how much buildup it had

Kaido is too dumb to be Madara / Thanos of the series and those 2 reached power levels within their universe that Kaido wont ever approach within his.

G5 removed all tensions from Luffy fights and there were barely any to begin with.

Entire plot with Big Mom pirates was terribly done.
 
The DevilMaster

The DevilMaster

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You can indeed compare this with the disaster that Egghead was, even with an admiral and the Gorosei present. Oda still didn’t give them that much emphasis — Kizaru himself was overshadowed by the Gorosei. And honestly, it was a very fast arc with little importance compared to Wano, which is the longest and most important arc of them all, where Kaidou was the main boss and the entire post-timeskip had been building up to that moment. We can’t compare them with characters who at most get four chapters — that’s crumbs of attention Oda gives them.

People were genuinely hyped during Wano, and the proof is those almost 1700 pages. We’re not reaching those numbers again — only when the Yonko Blackbeard decides to carry this manga the way Kaidou did, carrying not just an island but the entire story.




 
Zoinks52

Zoinks52

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MonochromeYoru said:
kaido was way more interesting and had more of a personality in the gv flashback than in wano

both wano and kaido was trash
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You made me think of something lol - imagine GV Kaido's personality in prime Kaido's body.

He'd have been the funniest villain ever. None of that depression stuff, just flying around showing off his dragon form and being comically evil and OP.

Hell even Primedo's depression would've worked for GV Kaido. I'm imagining him as an angsty teen acting all edgy, making tierlists of the strongest he's fought and trying to get drunk only for BM and WB to keep taking away his alcohol.
 
The DevilMaster

The DevilMaster

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ZenZu said:
165 chapters and still nearly unanimously agreed Kaidou is a dogshit character. This is actually sad.
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He carried the post-TS hype for a decade, had the longest and most ambitious arc in the story dedicated to him, triggered some of the biggest feats in the manga, defined the era’s power ceiling, and was the central pillar of the longest arc Oda ever wrote. That’s not what happens with a “unanimously hated” character — that’s what happens with a character whose impact was so massive that people are still arguing about him years later, because his presence reshaped the entire narrative and set a standard no villain since has matched.
 
ZenZu

ZenZu

The only one who can beat me is me
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The DevilMaster said:
He carried the post-TS hype for a decade, had the longest and most ambitious arc in the story dedicated to him, triggered some of the biggest feats in the manga, defined the era’s power ceiling, and was the central pillar of the longest arc Oda ever wrote. That’s not what happens with a “unanimously hated” character — that’s what happens with a character whose impact was so massive that people are still arguing about him years later, because his presence reshaped the entire narrative and set a standard no villain since has matched.
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Bro almost everyone here thinks Wano ruined One Piece and that Kaidou is a terribly written character.

The fact that someone with this much time dedicated to him managed to make everyone agree that Kaidou is one of the worst written characters is a failure on Oda's part as a writer.
 
Zoinks52

Zoinks52

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MonsterKaido said:
Even for Kaido him not having an awakening was an L
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Was it really an L? I mean Seiryuu was basically the strongest mythical zoan before Nika, which should put it over even Buddha.

And if Zoan awakenings also happen when users mind and body catch up to the fruit, then even Kaido would have a low chance of awakening it simply because the standard to do so would probably have been abnormally high due to the fruit's power.
 
MonsterKaido

MonsterKaido

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Zoinks52 said:
Was it really an L? I mean Seiryuu was basically the strongest mythical zoan before Nika, which should put it over even Buddha.

And if Zoan awakenings also happen when users mind and body catch up to the fruit, then even Kaido would have a low chance of awakening it simply because the standard to do so would probably have been abnormally high due to the fruit's power.
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It was as loda gave awakening to doffy and Kata and later even lucci for me. Oda didn't gave awakening to BM also because it would make them way too powerful.
 
soupongo

soupongo

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The DevilMaster said:
He carried the post-TS hype for a decade, had the longest and most ambitious arc in the story dedicated to him, triggered some of the biggest feats in the manga, defined the era’s power ceiling, and was the central pillar of the longest arc Oda ever wrote. That’s not what happens with a “unanimously hated” character — that’s what happens with a character whose impact was so massive that people are still arguing about him years later, because his presence reshaped the entire narrative and set a standard no villain since has matched.
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Is this AI?
 
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