Role Madness Elden Ring

Scum are more informed usually, so they either use right from the start or not at all. Hence why I said if they don’t use at all I consider the Duelist outed. But it‘d make more sense for the Duelist to double down and not use at all at that point as they could just claim he can only use D3+ or he didn’t want to use yet.
 

Ratchet

The End and the Beginning
no, my point is that this post basically meant the duelist would get tunneled eventually if he didn’t use the ability right then, so he might have felt like he had no choice
I mean sure, but looking at his play, it seems to me that the Charlie mention prompts him into action. Could that not plausibly come from town?
has fuji ever had a scum duelist in his games before?
Probably.
 
You‘re all too much of cowards to vote this guy. It‘s hopeless to win a game when this guy rands Anti Town. Vote me, flip me as Town and then go and f***ing end him.
First of all, no, I have no problem voting him. Being confrontational like this is not helping though. I'm trying to tell you to take a break and if you still feel the same in the morning, we can address it. I'm not clearing Ratchet.
Peroroncino - Probably Town
Polar Bear - Probably Town
Ratchet - Town
Jaguark101 - Town
bittersweet - Town
Indigo - Probably Town
Flower - Town
RippedCal - Could be scum
Naomi - Indie
Random Asshole - No idea
Charlie - Indie
York - Could be scum
baudib1 - Could be scum, not with Ripped Cal
The Orca - Probably Town, not as strong as Polar
Lord Melkor - Probably Town
MonochromeYoru - Probably Town
Alwaysmind - Null
Yo Tan Wa - Town
Worst - Probably Town
Jan - Slight Town
Stargate - Probably Town
Saber - Could be scum

PoE is Cal, RA, York, baudib (not if Cal is scum), AM (slight town on the slot but trended off), Saber.

If there are scum outside of that I would start with Orca probably as I don't have a very good reason for him to be town.

Cal can easily be scum. York I sort of want to say is more townie than scummy but not many names left over. Saber I think has townie points to him as well but I don't know how much credit to give him when his play outside of it is a dead ringer for his scum game.

@bittersweet take it for whatever it's worth
Thank you. I think the logical choice would be to go after York or baudib, though it's plurality lynch so either being lynched would be a win.
 

Ratchet

The End and the Beginning
First of all, no, I have no problem voting him. Being confrontational like this is not helping though. I'm trying to tell you to take a break and if you still feel the same in the morning, we can address it. I'm not clearing Ratchet.

Thank you. I think the logical choice would be to go after York or baudib, though it's plurality lynch so either being lynched would be a win.
Nah just vote me, like you said you've no problem voting me.
 
First of all, no, I have no problem voting him. Being confrontational like this is not helping though. I'm trying to tell you to take a break and if you still feel the same in the morning, we can address it. I'm not clearing Ratchet.

Thank you. I think the logical choice would be to go after York or baudib, though it's plurality lynch so either being lynched would be a win.
Being confrontational is the only way when people don’t vote with you.

He says now it’s a Cal kill. I‘ve been trying to lynch the guy since D1, but even if he’s scum when people don’t help you out and make your suspects a serious wagon you eventually stop bothering.

Whatever. Just gonna shitpost with Nao atp.
 

Ratchet

The End and the Beginning
no, my point is that this post basically meant the duelist would get tunneled eventually if he didn’t use the ability right then, so he might have felt like he had no choice
The problem here Saber is that you're ascribing scum motivation to play that has an equally plausible town motivation behind it. That being, he subs in, he knows he's a duelist, he sees Charlie mentioned as someone who should be duelled, he gets the info and then he actions on it. That's a perfectly reasonable progression. It's not to say that you're wrong, but your argument doesn't identify scummy play, it identifies play that you can scribe to scum motivation, which you can do for almost everything.
 

Ratchet

The End and the Beginning
Being confrontational is the only way when people don’t vote with you.

He says now it’s a Cal kill. I‘ve been trying to lynch the guy since D1, but even if he’s scum when people don’t help you out and make your suspects a serious wagon you eventually stop bothering.

Whatever. Just gonna shitpost with Nao atp.
I'm helping you out - your main scum read is voting himself. You have a double vote, you have Polar voting me too, no reason why you can't make me top wagon. Go get your lynch Flower.
 

Saber

King of Knights
The problem here Saber is that you're ascribing scum motivation to play that has an equally plausible town motivation behind it. That being, he subs in, he knows he's a duelist, he sees Charlie mentioned as someone who should be duelled, he gets the info and then he actions on it. That's a perfectly reasonable progression. It's not to say that you're wrong, but your argument doesn't identify scummy play, it identifies play that you can scribe to scum motivation, which you can do for almost everything.
yeah which is why i'm having him as a null for now instead of giving him town points for that
 
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