Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1167 Spoilers Discussion

ZenZu

The only one who can beat me is me
Oda had fodder samurai refer to Big Mom as another Kaido. And from their perspective it is true.

Meanwhile, Kaido
(1) thought of Linlin as an invalid,
(2) called her pathetic for being thrown off of Onigashima by Kidd/Law
(3) implied pre-G5 Luffy gave him a better 1v1 fight
(4) had Future Sight
(5) Flame Bagua v. Misery comparision

Big Mom was not Kaido's equal, more like a low budget, inferior version that was given for Kidd/Law to defeat.
Don't forget this.
Oda has done plenty to separate Kaidou from Big Mom even portrayal wise when he needs to. Like I said earlier. We have to draw the line somewhere, in the grand scheme sure BM = Kaidou but in the details it is very clear Kaidou is significantly stronger and this goes beyond feats. The feats are backed by statements, hype, portrayal.
 
Don't forget this.
Oda has done plenty to separate Kaidou from Big Mom even portrayal wise when he needs to. Like I said earlier. We have to draw the line somewhere, in the grand scheme sure BM = Kaidou but in the details it is very clear Kaidou is significantly stronger and this goes beyond feats. The feats are backed by statements, hype, portrayal.
Kaido’s own men hyping him up? :shocked:
 

ZenZu

The only one who can beat me is me
Why is @ZenZu liking posts which compare King Kuri in strength to Mr. 1?

Is it time to kick that fraud LenLu out of the fanclub? @MarineHQ
If I'm kicked out then that isn't a Katakuri fanclub to begin with. I am the Katakuri fanclub.

Not without me and Ndule. Y'all posers haven't done enough time to even wear that badge.
 
No way are you trying to argue rn that the island sinking and Ace getting away is better than just the island sinking :usoprice:

WB was planning on sinking the island according to Bumgoku but just moments ago he tried to stop Ace/Luffy. He couldn't do it and then gave a concession speech.
No, but having priorities isn´t an issue? They had Ace as a hostage, so the marines didn´t have to worry about WB trying to large scale damage to the island, but now they do. He just wanted to focus on that after they lost Ace, which isn´t crazy unreasonable?
That's a bumass leader right there, showing weakness to his underlings at the slightest inconvenience. He actually straight up just quit after Luffy clowned his attack, honestly I would too. He said it himself. "What a disgrace" the issue is he should be giving orders to his underlings instead of wallowing over his failures and spreading negativity. Absolute bum of a leader. When the marines needed him most he folded, Akainu literally told everyone to calm tf down, no one is getting away. That's how a leader behaves.
Not really wrong, but in Odas´s mind being old means you can be badass, but not in a leadership role. Look at the Gorosei, they may be strongish, but they almost never have real presence as leaders and they seat sometimes too. Sengoku ultimately steps down after the war because of this, but you have to at least give him some credit for stopping Blackbeard from sinking the island. You have a pretty simple:
Akainu vs WBP
Sengoku vs BBP(before Garp steps in).

And younger, admiral Sengoku wasn´t like he is as a FA we pretty much know that for a fact, seeing how he chased Shiki and Roger around. He was also pretty calm when Shiki killed all the marines in front of him and Garp. Would you be shocked if, by EOS, you have Akainu also being kind of stationary and freaking out during a war, while Aramaki, Kizaru and Fujitora arent?
 

ZenZu

The only one who can beat me is me
He has never been the same since I went mask off on Bumgoku. Leave that man alone bro, I don't want to torment him any further, he's already changed his identity 3 times since.
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No, but having priorities isn´t an issue? They had Ace as a hostage, so the marines didn´t have to worry about WB trying to large scale damage to the island, but now they do. He just wanted to focus on that after they lost Ace, which isn´t crazy unreasonable?

Not really wrong, but in Odas´s mind being old means you can be badass, but not in a leadership role. Look at the Gorosei, they may be strongish, but they almost never have real presence as leaders and they seat sometimes too. Sengoku ultimately steps down after the war because of this, but you have to at least give him some credit for stopping Blackbeard from sinking the island. You have a pretty simple:
Akainu vs WBP
Sengoku vs BBP(before Garp steps in).

And younger, admiral Sengoku wasn´t like he is as a FA we pretty much know that for a fact, seeing how he chased Shiki and Roger around. He was also pretty calm when Shiki killed all the marines in front of him and Garp. Would you be shocked if, by EOS, you have Akainu also being kind of stationary and freaking out during a war, while Aramaki, Kizaru and Fujitora arent?
Bro....grass tomorrow. Please 🙏
 

ZenZu

The only one who can beat me is me
Can I at least do a little lord Vergo defense?
I'm not even gonna hold you, I love you for that ❤️

You never let the Vergo haters walk away with their yap. Always humbling them with facts right away, and they fucking hate that. They expect when they make a large post that no one will respond.

I don't read majority of large back and forths on this site, I have to stop and respect what you do for Vergo on here. Don't think I didn't notice, this will always get a like from me champ :BigW:keep those mfers honest.
 
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