Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1167 Spoilers Discussion

Still can't believe Oda actually drew that.

Man I just know there's no way he would draw this today :suresure:

Shiki is so lucky he's not relevant today, he gets to live off this for the rest of time, doesn't need to move a muscle. This dude had Prime Garp and Sengoku both sweating together.
That's why downplaying Shiki over his story irrelevance is ironic. Oda always finds a way to clown his villains post-timeskip, even Kaido got shit like being traumatized by Oden, stalled by Yamato for 10 chapters going toe-to-toe with base Luffy.
Meanwhile Shiki can live off pushing prime Garp/Sengoku to high diff in 1 vs 2 until the end of time, this feat will forever hold up when it comes to discussing top tiers.
 

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That's why downplaying Shiki over his story irrelevance is ironic. Oda always finds a way to clown his villains post-timeskip, even Kaido got shit like being traumatized by Oden, stalled by Yamato for 10 chapters going toe-to-toe with base Luffy.
Meanwhile Shiki can live off pushing prime Garp/Sengoku to high diff in 1 vs 2 until the end of the time, this feat will forever hold up when it comes to discussing top tiers.
Shiki fans should unironically be praying he never shows up again
 
Why would he do shit lol? The story isn´t about him, it´s not like past information isn´t still canon.
Mind you, Oda easily could’ve given Shiki moments to highlight his strength in the flashback, but he deliberately chose not to multiple times lol

The narrator flipping this moment after God Valley and highlighting Big Mom, Kaido, and Whitebeard as the pinnacle of pirates absolutely retcons this era being “Shiki’s” lol, this also means he wasn’t even the missing fourth Yonko everyone thought about, it was Roger lol
 
I wouldn’t even bring it up if I were them out of embarrassment. Law and Kid’s poneglpyhs both sacrificed to their yonko senpais BB and shanks, ships destroyed afterwards. Law was just allowed to get some hits in first because kid sucks major balls
If you think losing to the FV is a bad thing you might actually be mentally disabled
 
Shiki hasn’t done shit, since Strong World. In EVERY instance afterwards, it’s the Yonko + the Pirate King. If Shiki was going to have ANYMORE plot relevance or acclaim added to his legend, it would’ve been done in this flashback. Kaido, Roger, Big Mom, and Whitebeard rule the seas Shiki sails in lol
Shamrock and Shanks aren't equals in this chapter because Shamrocks has no feats type of argument. :AlexChills:
 
This confirms Oda has no plan to actually use Shiki in canon, if Oda made him a major figure he'd actually have to explain what he's up to/what happened to him. He's both canon and filler at the same time, his existence as Rockd Pirates is like a glorified easter egg
Always felt like that to me, couldn't take him seriously after the movie even though I know it's not canon.
 
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