Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1168 Spoilers Discussion
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Always a possiblity lol but I hope not 
And tbf although Luffy ultimately overcame Kaido with a stronger punch. He did learn a lot Haki wise. For instance without improving his haki to the level he did together with Nika hax, he probably won't have been able to withstand Kaido's flame bagua. Know I'm waffling lol but I really hope it isn't just "win with more ACoC" 
And tbf although Luffy ultimately overcame Kaido with a stronger punch
. He did learn a lot Haki wise. For instance without improving his haki to the level he did together with Nika hax, he probably won't have been able to withstand Kaido's flame bagua. Know I'm waffling lol but I really hope it isn't just "win with more ACoC"
Always a possiblity lol but I hope not
And tbf although Luffy ultimately overcame Kaido with a stronger punch. He did learn a lot Haki wise. For instance without improving his haki to the level he did together with Nika hax, he probably won't have been able to withstand Kaido's flame bagua. Know I'm waffling lol but I really hope it isn't just "win with more ACoC"
And tbf although Luffy ultimately overcame Kaido with a stronger punch
. He did learn a lot Haki wise. For instance without improving his haki to the level he did together with Nika hax, he probably won't have been able to withstand Kaido's flame bagua. Know I'm waffling lol but I really hope it isn't just "win with more ACoC"
Oda clearly showed that time had elapsed between when Gaban dropped into the underworld and the warning he gave Luffy so there was most likely a conversation there. We can tell also from Loki's conversation with Gaban that he was told something.
Not sure why you're so against Gaban having thought them something
. Regardless of what it actually was, there is clear evidence that there was a conversation had. Personally I hope it isn't as simple as you're making out to be. Could very well be that that using a large amount of CoC is one way to go about it but hope it isn't just that.
Not sure why you're so against Gaban having thought them something
. Regardless of what it actually was, there is clear evidence that there was a conversation had. Personally I hope it isn't as simple as you're making out to be. Could very well be that that using a large amount of CoC is one way to go about it but hope it isn't just that.
I think it's going to be more of question of finesse tbh.
Both Kaido and Shanks can use CoC for instance but Shanks is clearly potrayed as superior in that even though both can use ACoC so whatever Gaban thought them could potentially be tied to that as Luffy has to catch up to Shanks in that aspect.
Both Kaido and Shanks can use CoC for instance but Shanks is clearly potrayed as superior in that even though both can use ACoC so whatever Gaban thought them could potentially be tied to that as Luffy has to catch up to Shanks in that aspect.
Tbf recently I've been following the chapters via spoilers and only ever read them way after when I get my hands on the actual volume so missed this context. That said, I mean that seems to be one way that those two thought of on the fly but it's clearly a double edged sword as they point out here. For some reason I'm certain Zoro will be able to use it that way as there is been emphasis on the volume he has but I doubt Luffy does but well this is Oda we are talking about so I will not at all be surprised if overwhelming with mass is the answer lol
Some things that possibly debunks this are:
- deep sea contract gives you a amp in strength and immortality which is bascially what we've seen all the holy knights use till now
- holy knights don't seem to be capable of telepathy like the Gorosei and communicate via den den mushi iirc
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You become Holy Knights with deep sea mark and one of 13
Gorosei lie about Shallow pact
There must be something beyond Abyss lvl
Gorosei lie about Shallow pact
There must be something beyond Abyss lvl
- deep sea contract gives you a amp in strength and immortality which is bascially what we've seen all the holy knights use till now
- holy knights don't seem to be capable of telepathy like the Gorosei and communicate via den den mushi iirc
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