Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1168 Spoilers Discussion

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If Luffy’s nika fruit allows him to basically play Reversi with Imu by either turning them back to normal or even giving them a stronger equivalent form I wonder if he’ll end up also having “pacts”

If so people will definitely hate it especially power scaling fans but idk I don’t think it’s impossible. Tho I don’t think it’d be full on nika forms same way the gorosei and knights still have their own abilities for the most part just boosted
 
This is the same community that thinks Harald should’ve just fought the WG instead of actually working towards his goal.
There is something both complicated and poorly written here @Roo

The question is why does Harald HAVE to join the WG? He said he wants to have good relations with humans, why can’t he just do that the regular way he was doing when he managed to get several human kingdoms to give his country food. Weren’t all those human countries his ally?

He didn’t make those countries allies with the help of the WG or legitimacy of the WG, he made them allies by actually doing diplomacy the old fashioned way

why not continue doing just this? Why did he feel the need to get legitimacy from the WG? Even though he got many sign of how evil they are such as when one of these allies he made before were attacked by the WG simply for not being part of the WG

See what I mean? The bad writing is in Harald’s seeming infatuation with this completely evil organization of the WG simply because they happen to be the largest alliance of human nations

There were other things he could have done. He simply chose the most stupid thing even taking to consideration his “good motives”

the only clever thing about Harald’s story is that it’s a clear parallel to why the Yonko empires exist as they are. They too are alliances of countries outside of the WG. The only difference is that they actually have the standing military power to not allow the WG to just sail into an ally country and take slaves the way Harald’s ally country was getting destroyed

Oda is making a case for why the Yonko exist as military powers instead of just being what Harald was doing making allies but not establishing a military force to protect his allies
 
Akainu seems to know more then the rest, when VP was speaking Akainu was like '' So youre going to tell them everything huh.... Veapunk?''

I think its likely that any FA has to form the shallow sea pact.
I doubt that. I didn't get the impression that Akainu knew much at all tbh. At first I thought that's the case, but maybe you get inside info with years of service like Sengoku or Kong.
 

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Conqueror of the Stars
Warcury vs Akainu would be cool.
The Gorosei in general are great Admiral foils.

Ryokugyu is a forest, Wu Peter is a worm which are like parasites to vegetation. Both of these characters also have heavy associations with eating, Ryokugyu is a faster while also being able to “eat” people with his fruit, Ju Peter is a sand worm who eats everything.

Nasujuro is conceptually like a rich high born samurai, Fujitora is conceptually a poor wandering Samurai. Nasujuro wears glasses that improve his vision, Fujitora blinded himself.

The Gorosei are 100% Admiral opponents. Warcury and Akainu have already had a shouting match on panel and Warcury is the Godhead of Justice lol.

Quite frankly if you don’t think the Admirals will rebel and defeat the Gorosei, I think One Piece is the first fictional series you’ve ever read
 
Nah that’s just adhd there, like me, Harald said he wanted to join the WG so he could help all the countries in the world/ visit all of them and trade. Something he couldn’t do if not in the WG since the navy was stopping him. He even says it again this chapter, that he wanted to go see all the countries with Ida. If he wasn’t part of the WG, as a giant, they'd send fleet against him and he doesn't want to fight.

(But it’s not only for himself, he wants other giants to be able to roam freely)
How’s Ida love connected to this? Both Xebec this chapter outright tell us Harald is motivated by it
 
Notice how Ida is barely involved outside of the first chapter

yet Xebec and this chapter implies it was about her

you’re connecting dots
I mean yeah Ida was involved in the formation of his dream? She’s the one who showed it to him and she’s the one he declared it for. This was all in the chapter.

Once her role was done she was removed so oda could focus further on Haralds actions. Why would we need a whole recap chapter for what’s written in 1153??
 
There is something both complicated and poorly written here @Roo

The question is why does Harald HAVE to join the WG? He said he wants to have good relations with humans, why can’t he just do that the regular way he was doing when he managed to get several human kingdoms to give his country food. Weren’t all those human countries his ally?

He didn’t make those countries allies with the help of the WG or legitimacy of the WG, he made them allies by actually doing diplomacy the old fashioned way

why not continue doing just this? Why did he feel the need to get legitimacy from the WG? Even though got many sign of how evil they are such as when one of these allies he made before were attacked by the WG simply for not being part of the WG

See what I mean? The bad writing is in Harald’s seeming infatuation with this completely evil organization of the WG simply because they happen to be the largest alliance of human nations

There were other things he could have done. He simply chose the most stupid thing even taking to consideration his “good motives”

the only clever thing about Harald’s story is that it’s a clear parallel to why the Yonko empires exist as they are. They too are alliances of countries outside of the WG. The only difference is that they actually have the standing military power to not allow the WG to just sail into an ally country and take slaves the way Harald’s ally country was getting destroyed

Oda is making a case for why the Yonko exist as military powers instead of just being what Harald was doing making allies but not establishing a military force to protect his allies
Because Harald himself states in the chapter, direct quote, “The World Government stepped in to block our path again!”

This isn’t complicated at all?
 
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