Controversial General Political Discussion

[Monkey D Theories]

Oh my goodness

how the fuck is a company like Amazon or Microsoft going to just move countries? You realize that would cost billions, for some companies trillions? And it would obliterate the stock market and destroy investment into these companies?

This moron really thinks Apple is just a food truck you can move to India or some shit. Lmao

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Unblocked you briefly just to say no, for the vast majority of companies that rely on H1B, they are far too large to leave the US and it would not be profitable at all, and it would cost billions.

I’m not saying they do a 100% pull out of the US

But if you make business in America less profitable they will invest less, and that will hurt Americans.

That’s basic economics.

You want to improve employment you create job guarantee programs, you don’t get rid of folk who are already contributing to the economy.

 

[RyoQ]

I’m not saying they do a 100% pull out of the US

But if you make business in America less profitable they will invest less, and that will hurt Americans.

That’s basic economics.

You want to improve employment you create job guarantee programs, you don’t get rid of folk who are already contributing to the economy.

Only 5-10% (if we are being generous) of H1B jobs are able to be offshored or made-remote. Realistically it is probably much less than that.

You're rhetoric over reality pal

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contributing to the economy

Oh by stealing jobs? Lol

 

[Monkey D Theories]

Only 5-10% (if we are being generous) of H1B jobs are able to be offshored or made-remote. Realistically it is probably much less than that.

You're rhetoric over reality pal

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Oh by stealing jobs? Lol

What will keep companies investing in America for the next 50 years if you deport their workers and make their business less profitable. Why wouldn’t they invest elsewhere?

the only way to guarantee jobs is via the government. Private companies don’t care about you

 

[RyoQ]

What will keep companies investing in America for the next 50 years if you deport their workers and make their business less profitable. Why wouldn’t they invest elsewhere?

the only way to guarantee jobs is via the government. Private companies don’t care about you

Now, you are getting into something seperate. In the short term you would have to admit for Americans thousands of new jobs would open up if H1B was sniped and foreigners sent home and this would be good.

You can make your spiel about a push for government mandated jobs over private sector reliance while still admitting my point.

 

[Monkey D Theories]

Now, you are getting into something seperate. In the short term you would have to admit for Americans thousands of new jobs would open up if H1B was sniped and foreigners sent home and this would be good.

You can make your spiel about a push for government mandated jobs over private sector reliance while still admitting my point.

Sure

Ending H1-B could open up some jobs in the short term for Americans

But it will make America less competitive in the global economy and needlessly remove law abiding and productive members of society. All of which will make America poorer.

 

[RyoQ]

needlessly remove law abiding and productive members of society

ending the abuse of companies of foreign labor, and theft of thousands jobs and university positions by foreigners from the American people = needless

 

[Monkey D Theories]

theft of thousands jobs and university positions by foreigners from the American people = needless

nothing is being stolen, Americans are just getting outcompeted

obviously we should try to create systems to help American citizens, like work guarantees and free college

but it’s not immigrants’ fault that Americans are being outcompeted.

 

[RyoQ]

could

Not could, would. 500,000 minimum new jobs for us if India and China workers banned and sent back!

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obviously we should try to create systems to help American citizens, like work guarantees and free college

Not necessary just ban Indians and Chinese H1B holders and nuke the system. Problem solved

 

[NAMELESS]

Oh my goodness

how the fuck is a company like Amazon or Microsoft going to just move countries? You realize that would cost billions, for some companies trillions? And it would obliterate the stock market and destroy investment into these companies?

This moron really thinks Apple is just a food truck you can move to India or some shit. Lmao

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Unblocked you briefly just to say no, for the vast majority of companies that rely on H1B, they are far too large to leave the US and it would not be profitable at all, and it would cost billions.

Wait, my current avi too spicy for you? lol

 

[Monkey D Theories]

Not could, would. 500,000 minimum new jobs for us if India and China workers banned and sent back!

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Not necessary just ban Indians and Chinese H1B holders and nuke the system. Problem solved

Assuming, of course, that the economy doesn’t just contract from removing thousands of workers

 

[NAMELESS]

Assuming, of course, that the economy doesn’t just contract from removing thousands of workers

Just give them all citizenship. Problem solved.

 

[RyoQ]

Just give them all citizenship. Problem solved.

Blocked

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Assuming, of course, that the economy doesn’t just contract from removing thousands of workers

I already scaled for that by making it 500,000 new jobs instead of the 700-800,000 H1B abusers currently hold.

 

[NAMELESS]

Blocked

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I already scaled for that by making it 500,000 new jobs instead of the 700-800,000 H1B abusers currently hold.

How many billions do you think it will cost to bring production back to America?

 

[Monster Zoro's Tesla Supplier]

Primary reasons is he is money whore and the most zionist president in history; he has followed through on very little of his promises with regards to trade, war, immigration, fighting globalism, and draining the swamp. What, really, for the right has come in his 10 year reign, beginning in 2015 that time he had first stepped off the escalator?

Isn't he actively trying to mass kidnap immigrants as we speak

 

[NAMELESS]

Isn't he actively trying to mass kidnap immigrants as we speak

Fake news.

 

[Monkey D Theories]

I already scaled for that by making it 500,000 new jobs instead of the 700-800,000 H1B abusers currently hold.

What about the families of these immigrants? The money they spend in the economy? The inevitable price increases when companies’ are faced with higher costs.

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Just give them all citizenship. Problem solved.

That’s actually the fix to the immigration system. Cut out exploitation by making green cards and immigration visas more accessible.

 

[NAMELESS]

What about the families of these immigrants? The money they spend in the economy? The inevitable price increases when companies’ are faced with higher costs.

FUCK CONSUMERS. IT'S ALL ABOUT JOBS.

 

[RyoQ]

Isn't he actively trying to mass kidnap immigrants as we speak

Obama's deportation numbers are far higher than Trumps are at the moment, and have been during his entire term so far, and during his first term. Doesn't matter if ICE drops from helicopters and out of vans, that is entertainment. That is mere WWE so long as their daily average deportations are <2000/day.


Add this to his recent statement about 600,000 Chinese students and future workers coming here and he supports it. A centrist and hardly can be called radical

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1988040274132824454

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What about the families of these immigrants? The money they spend in the economy? The inevitable price increases when companies’ are faced with higher costs.

Lmao none of that matters. I'll take 500,000 new jobs and thousands of university positions instead please and thank you


Not to mention for all they boost GDP they also hurt the economy in other ways by consuming resources such as healthcare and housing

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That’s actually the fix to the immigration system. Cut out exploitation by making green cards and immigration visas more accessible.

Open borders basically yeah. Lol

 

[NAMELESS]

Obama's deportation numbers are far higher than Trumps are at the moment, and have been during his entire term so far, and during his first term. Doesn't matter if ICE drops from helicopters and out of vans, that is entertainment. That is mere WWE so long as their daily average deportations are <2000/day.


Add this to his recent statement about 600,000 Chinese students and future workers coming here and he supports it. A centrist and hardly can be called radical

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1988040274132824454

Well, trying to keep immigrants from PRIVATE educational institutions was always insanity to begin with. It would be like banning migrants from consuming any other type of product or good.

What about the families of these immigrants? The money they spend in the economy? The inevitable price increases when companies’ are faced with higher costs.
That’s actually the fix to the immigration system. Cut out exploitation by making green cards and immigration visas more accessible.

I was actually joking there. Nah, don't give citizenship to people that will erode American culture. You guys already have enough people that hate America within the country; there's no need to import any more of them.

 

[Monkey D Theories]

Lmao none of that matters. I'll take 500,000 new jobs and thousands of university positions instead please and thank you

it does because if it shrinks the economy, you’re not getting more jobs or university positions.

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Which is why I say, this is the worse strategy to try to ensure jobs or education, unless you don’t really care about those things and just want less immigrants