Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1169 Spoilers Discussion

[Monkey D Theories]

Hajrudin's agenda just hit rock bottom.

Maybe Loki really will die then. Because I tbh see no reason to introduce Hajrudin, have him aspire to be king of giants, only for him to be nothing more than Loki’s sidekick.

Looks like it’s leading to an Ace/Luffy situation.

 

[HA001]

that's not a real thing

Literally in the manga
Gabum and shanks mass is too weak to phase harald

 

[Fujishiro]

How did Rocks neg Gargling w/o the legendary fruit though?

Lay down the crackpipe, Loda.

He didnt kill him though? Garling was fine afterwards.

 

[Shiroyru]

Even more weird is by lokis talk with gaban he uses acoc to kill his dad not the fruit.

Another retcon

 

[HA001]

Another retcon

Not a retcon explained it above.

 

[Salah WG]

Every Single DF User & CoC User so far is Proven to be unable to Kill Imu,
Except Four Characters (Aside from Luffy & Zoro) who are yet to be Eliminated:

1. Can Loki's Power (DF + Ragnir + Adv. CoC) Kill Imu?
2. Can Blackbeard's Power (Darkness + Special Body) Kill Imu?
3. Can Mihawk's Swordsmanship (Unknown Peak Level) Kill Imu?
4. Can Dragon's Power (Unknown DF + Mysterious Tattoo) Kill Imu?

Imo aside from Gear 5 & Asura, these Four are only ones who Threaten Imu's Position on Empty Throne.

 

[Mr. Reloaded]

oda is cooked

retcons, continuity errors, plot holes

All the telltale signs of not having competent editors

Are you calling @Impact a liar?

 

[SkySanji]

It would've been Loki.

Loki was literally in prison for burning down a village. It certainly wouldn’t have been him.

Leading a pirate crew has nothing to do with being a king. Again, Loki is misunderstood, Harald knows this and the rest of Elbaf will come to know it by the time the arc ends.

Elbaf isn't some generic kingdom, it is the strongest nation in the world where strength has been prized for centuries, and the only king we've seen was a peak top tier. Hajrudin comes nowhere close to this, Loki is arguably even stronger than Harald.

It's just too easy

Harald: "I have to die as soon as possible!!! Do it and sit yourself on the “throne” Loki!!

 

[OPKnK]

did this bum not have acoc?

Even with Acoc that don't stop orders .

 

[Soyz]

Gaban and shanks probably didnt use Advcoc when they attacked herald

 

[Shyneseru]

"Only haki can transcend all"

"Aye Loki eat the fruit else it's GGs bro"

🥲

Ok, but if the fruit is a special mythical zoan like Surtr then an ancient giant could probably be near island sized lol, so powerful haki would be enough to defeat him, but he'd sink an island before someone like that arrives.

 

[Peppercat]

I had a bit of an epiphany.
A while back, I was considering that since you cant really back out of the most advance Imu Seal, which of the Gorosei are truly evil and who just cant back out anymore?

However now its not just Domi Reversi but some kind of overwriting personality it seems, to be just evil:

I may have to turn it upside down.
Which of the Gorosei were good men and who is legitimately a bastard among them that Imu may not even need to pull this on him. Someone in the Gorosei who is actually is a volunteer and is in this by his own free will.

 

[Sir Yasheen]

I'm not saying he can't come out of Elbaf with a big PU, but it will be something unique and in line with his unconventional style imo.

I mean look at Sanji, one could argue he needs to be able to defend himself against women, but that's just not gonna happen and Oda made that clear. Zoro will always be reliant on his swords, Franky will always be slow af, etc. They'll always have weaknesses and that's why they're complementary.

I think there’s a difference between Sanji and Usopp here. The main one being Usopps dream is reliant on him being a warrior, Sanjis character has no reliant on him eventually being able to hurt women.

Usopps power up being an item that matches his unique and unconventional fighting style is exactly why Ragnir fits. A hammer that can move on its own meaning it can be sniped and still return to Usopp, is a direct upgrade to one of Usopps signature weapons, and matches odas routine of giving EB SHs power ups from countries that connect with their characters.

 

[Bisoromi Bear]

It's just too easy

He only have the throne to loki because Hajrudin wasn't there
We don't know whom he would've chosen had both his sons been present

 

[MonochromeYoru]

Literally in the manga
Gabum and shanks mass is too weak to phase harald

yeah cause they aren't roger+garp tier lol

dodger and garp had to use all their haki at once to beat rocks

24y shank and middle aged gaben ain't doing that

But somehow Loki is going to do that which is insane...

 

[Shyneseru]

Maybe Loki really will die then. Because I tbh see no reason to introduce Hajrudin, have him aspire to be king of giants, only for him to be nothing more than Loki’s sidekick.

Looks like it’s leading to an Ace/Luffy situation.

Oh that's easy, Loki will just refuse to take the throne, I doubt he cares about becoming a king, he'd probably be happy if Hajrudin took that charge instead.

 

[HA001]

yeah cause they aren't roger+garp tier lol

dodger and garp had to use all their haki at once to beat rocks

24y shank and middle aged gaben ain't doing that

But somehow Loki is going to do that which is insane...

How do we know its loki alone what if its all 3 of them

 

[Bisoromi Bear]

I had a bit of an epiphany.
A while back, I was considering that since you cant really back out of the most advance Imu Seal, which of the Gorosei are truly evil and who just cant back out anymore?

However now its not just Domi Reversi but some kind of overwriting personality it seems, to be just evil:

I may have to turn it upside down.
Which of the Gorosei were good men and who is legitimately a bastard among them that Imu may not even need to pull this on him. Someone in the Gorosei who is actually is a volunteer and is in this by his own free will.

That's a really interesting observation. You might be onto something here.
Turn this into a thread once the chapter is out.

 

[MonochromeYoru]

Even with Acoc that don't stop orders .

i'm talking about harald recovering so fast

When gaben used acoc on sommers who has the same level of seal as harald, the damage lasted for way longer.

I guess maybe imu controlling harald means more power and regen?

 

[TheAncientCenturion]

They were all good people before the contract

I bet Saturn was worse before he got the seals.