What is more impressive?


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ZenZu

The only one who can beat me is me
Meme would’ve mid/high diffed them without PIS
I don't think you're getting it, Kidd literally got the equivalent of a Shiryu stab mid fight and Big Mom still couldn't keep him down despite giving up years of her life to power up. Law had to take freebies too cause Kidd was helpless for half the fight, not even counting the Thunder Bagua and other attacks he took on the roof against Kaidou.

If we remove the help Big Mom got in this fight she struggles even harder. At worst it cancels out, but objectively speaking Kidd and Law were more nerfed. Big Mom wasn't even nerfed she was buffed 😂

And they were able to walk away from this fight without losing consciousness. Now imagine they didn't have prior damage/fatal stabs mid fight.
 
I don't think you're getting it, Kidd literally got the equivalent of a Shiryu stab mid fight and Big Mom still couldn't keep him down despite giving up years of her life to power up. Law had to take freebies too cause Kidd was helpless for half the fight, not even counting the Thunder Bagua and other attacks he took on the roof against Kaidou.

If we remove the help Big Mom got in this fight she struggles even harder. At worst it cancels out, but objectively speaking Kidd and Law were more nerfed. Big Mom wasn't even nerfed she was buffed 😂

And they were able to walk away from this fight without losing consciousness. Now imagine they didn't have prior damage/fatal stabs mid fight.
Kid and Law got finished off like 3 times in that fight, and kept getting back up and spamming their allegedly highly stamina-draining moves
 

ZenZu

The only one who can beat me is me
Kid and Law got finished off like 3 times in that fight, and kept getting back up and spamming their allegedly highly stamina-draining moves
Yup, and then Shanks 0.5 shotted completely fresh Kidd and Killer with a Divine Departure.

Xebec is not being pushed to extreme diff like Big Mom. No shot in hell, DR Xebec made AdCoC masters Roger and Garp pass out after the fight, Kidd and Law were having a casual convo after the Big Mom fight, they actually got up to potentially face Kaidou who was coming down. It's pathetic given how weakened they were before even engaging Big Mom without interference.

Idk what low yonkou lvl entails, but I know for a fact Kidd and Law are not capable of pushing Xebec to an extreme diff battle.
 
Yup, and then Shanks 0.5 shotted completely fresh Kidd and Killer with a Divine Departure.

Xebec is not being pushed to extreme diff like Big Mom. No shot in hell, DR Xebec made AdCoC masters Roger and Garp pass out after the fight, Kidd and Law were having a casual convo after the Big Mom fight, they actually got up to potentially face Kaidou who was coming down. It's pathetic given how weakened they were before even engaging Big Mom without interference.

Idk what low yonkou lvl entails, but I know for a fact Kidd and Law are not capable of pushing Xebec to an extreme diff battle.
DR Xebec would be ~PK level
 

ZenZu

The only one who can beat me is me
DR Xebec would be ~PK level
Idc where DR Xebec is. I know Xebec isn't being pushed to extreme by two hakilet rookies, when Shanks already showed us a single DD wipes Kidd off the map.

And he certainly doesn't need Kaidou and Hawkins assistance just to be pushed to his limits.
 
Idc where DR Xebec is. I know Xebec isn't being pushed to extreme by two hakilet rookies, when Shanks already showed us a single DD wipes Kidd off the map.

And he certainly doesn't need Kaidou and Hawkins assistance just to be pushed to his limits.
Do you admit that BM wasn’t using ACoC against them?
 
It's really insane to think BM had dozen(s) minutes worth of free shots against a Kid who was also taking head injuries and a stab wounds (for reminder Zoro passed out from a similar wound) because of Hawkins magic and I barely see it ever being brought up, people instead whine about BM being the nerfed one. The yonko bias is really strong.
 

ZenZu

The only one who can beat me is me
It's really insane to think BM had dozen(s) minutes worth of free shots against a Kid who was also taking head injuries and a stab wounds (for reminder Zoro passed out from a similar wound) because of Hawkins magic and I barely see it ever being brought up, people instead whine about BM being the nerfed one. The yonko bias is really strong.
Tale as old as time. The actual canon nerfs being ignored for complete headcanon nerfs.

Being generous they should cancel out and we're back to square one, but the actual canon argument is in favour of Law and Kidd.
 
It's really insane to think BM had dozen(s) minutes worth of free shots against a Kid who was also taking head injuries and a stab wounds (for reminder Zoro passed out from a similar wound) because of Hawkins magic and I barely see it ever being brought up, people instead whine about BM being the nerfed one. The yonko bias is really strong.
Kid and Law were at like 1 HP for half of the fight. Oda was just giving them plot-boosted endurance
 
@soupongo Ngl, us Naruto fans kinda don’t have right to complain about Oda using Haki inconsistently when Kishi kinda just forgot that Madara and Obito have access to every other Rinnegan ability besides the Outer Path, and that Madara should have 2 MS abilities besides Susano’o
Well the difference is that there isn't really a reason for Haki to be so confusing, it's completely simple and not really complex, and yet we don't really know how it works and it causes all these debates.

The Rinnegan after Nagato died is just pure autism though. There was no real reason to give it to every plot relevant uchiha, since none of them were using it really. So yeah, that was pretty dumb
 
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