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Do you mean Israelian are not settlers? Or maybe you don't want contextual informations like you just added some yourself?
What are you really trying to say by calling Israelis settlers?
No. It's a mode of exploitation and domination clearly defined. Refusing to qualify a settler colony as it is, is refusing to accept the problem as it is.
Nah, but some yeah.
I'm telling you that everything happens in a context, and refusing to see the context by depoliticizing an issue is invisibilizing the reality of a potential situation of oppression. Killing and murders, while horrible, don't happen in a void. So when your first reflex when someone explains the oppression of Palestinians and explain that the resistance treated prisoners correctly, is to call out war crimes of such groups, you participate in such invisibilization and the destruction of the contextual informations that are fundamental to understand the conflict and oppressions of palestinians.
Zionism is an extension of white supremacism
Nah, but some yeah.
I'm telling you that everything happens in a context, and refusing to see the context by depoliticizing an issue is invisibilizing the reality of a potential situation of oppression. Killing and murders, while horrible, don't happen in a void. So when your first reflex when someone explains the oppression of Palestinians and explain that the resistance treated prisoners correctly, is to call out war crimes of such groups, you participate in such invisibilization and the destruction of the contextual informations that are fundamental to understand the conflict and oppressions of palestinians.
Zionism is an extension of white supremacism
The thing is, “settler colonialism” is largely just a matter of perspective.
Are Asian and African immigrants in Europe settlers? Some people would say yes. If no, at what point would they become settlers?
London is 36% white British. If there was a civil war in the UK, and London became independent, would it be a settler colony? What if after independence it had much more liberal immigration policies and white British people became 5% of the population. London would then be a majority ethnically African/Asian country in a land historically white British. Is that a settler colony?
Regardless most people would consider it racist to refer to black/asian British people as “settlers”
Are Asian and African immigrants in Europe settlers? Some people would say yes. If no, at what point would they become settlers?
London is 36% white British. If there was a civil war in the UK, and London became independent, would it be a settler colony? What if after independence it had much more liberal immigration policies and white British people became 5% of the population. London would then be a majority ethnically African/Asian country in a land historically white British. Is that a settler colony?
Regardless most people would consider it racist to refer to black/asian British people as “settlers”
jews have always wanted to have an independent state in the holy land. The entire religion is based off of it. The difference between Zionist and religious antizionist Jews really just differs on when and how such a state will be created.
While there is certainly some overlap between white supremacy and Zionism, it really isn’t the same thing.
While there is certainly some overlap between white supremacy and Zionism, it really isn’t the same thing.
No.
No.
By taking the power. Subgegating the population. Oppressing the population. Racializing the population. Dehumanizing the population. Marginalizing the population. Exploiting the population.
Settler colonialism is a form of domination.
Yeah... Palestinians are right to be angry.
No.
By taking the power. Subgegating the population. Oppressing the population. Racializing the population. Dehumanizing the population. Marginalizing the population. Exploiting the population.
Settler colonialism is a form of domination.
Yeah... Palestinians are right to be angry.
hence I say it is an arbitrary distinction
I said "Zionism is an extention of white supremacy" not "white supremacy is zionism". In fact this doesn't mean that Zionism originate in white supremacy either, it's more of a symbiotic relationship.
It is was it is.
And ?
No. I forgot something.
Colonialism is also linked to a metropole and imperialism. Israel is just a particular case where the metropole is self contained and was created artificially. You could say that Israel serves the interest of westerners (the US specifically) but it would be incomplete.
Israel has an imperialist agenda. Specific to this region.
Understanding who holds the power and who oppressed who is not arbitrary. It's clear and documented. Especially in the case of colonialism.
It is was it is.
And ?
No. I forgot something.
Colonialism is also linked to a metropole and imperialism. Israel is just a particular case where the metropole is self contained and was created artificially. You could say that Israel serves the interest of westerners (the US specifically) but it would be incomplete.
Israel has an imperialist agenda. Specific to this region.
Understanding who holds the power and who oppressed who is not arbitrary. It's clear and documented. Especially in the case of colonialism.
