Questions & Mysteries Why did Harald call Jarul over Dorry/Brogy to stop him? Did Harald think they're not strong enough to stop him?

#3
He told them to call over Hajrudin as well and he’s a scrub

I don’t think we’re meant to think too deeply about it. Dorry and Brogy are effectively separate from Elbaf at that point and have been for nearly 100 years
Hajrudin was the next in line for the throne that's why Harald called him to witness the change of kingship from him to Hajrudin/Loki.

And how do you know Harald knew what happened to Dorry and Brogy? Harald even didn't know his own son Loki was put in prison lol.
 
#6
Harald didn't know Hajrudin was at sea which is clear from the rest of the page that you cropped out
And Harald also didn't know Dory and Broggy were out at sea but he still chose to call Jarul lol.

Because they don't assume Dorry and Broggy would leave their duel and help.
How do you know Harald knew where Dorry and Brogy were? Harald didn't know his own son Loki was imprisoned.
 
#10
Your argument is just assumption after assumption, no evidence to support this shitty agenda at all.
There's more proof for Harald not knowing where Dorry and Brogy were than Harald knowing where Dorry and Brogy were. So my argument is solid lol. What proof do you have Harald knew what happened to Dorry and Brogy?
 
#12
There's more proof for Harald not knowing where Dorry and Brogy were than Harald knowing where Dorry and Brogy were.
You're actually an idiot if you think Harald had no idea that his two friends and legendary captains of the giant warrior pirates haven't been seen on Elbaf for close to a hundred years. Either way, I'm not the one using this shit for my agenda, you are, you're the one that needs to prove what Harald did or didn't know.
 
#13
Because Dorry and Broggy left Elbaf 80+ years ago? Where was it mentioned he didn't know about Loki being in jail?
Harald is older than Dorry and Brogy though. He was in Elbaf before them lol.

The fact that his guards had to tell him that Loki was put in prison which means Harald didn't know Loki was in prison lol.

You're actually an idiot if you think Harald had no idea that his two friends and legendary captains of the giant warrior pirates haven't been seen on Elbaf for close to a hundred years. Either way, I'm not the one using this shit for my agenda, you are, you're the one that needs to prove what Harald did or didn't know.
The real idiot is you making an assumption Harald knew what happened to Dorry and Brigy lol.

Prove he had an idea where Dorry and Brogy were when he didn't know what happened to Loki his own son?

You're the one making an assumption that Harald knew what happened to Dorry and Brogy when he didn't know his own son Loki was in prison and Hajrudin weren 't in Elbaf lol.
 
#14
Harald is older than Dorry and Brogy though. He was in Elbaf before them lol.

The fact that his guards had to tell him that Loki was put in prison which means Harald didn't know Loki was in prison lol.


The real idiot is you making an assumption Harald knew what happened to Dorry and Brigy lol.

Prove he had an idea where Dorry and Brogy were when he didn't know what happened to Loki his own son?

You're the one making an assumption that Harald knew what happened to Dorry and Brogy when he didn't know his own son Loki was in prison and Hajrudin weren 't in Elbaf lol.
Doesn't seem entirely clear that he wasn't aware that Loki was imprisoned honestly, it just seems like the guards were making that statement not knowing the urgency of the fact that he needed to be stopped, it doesn't seem like he was shocked at the mention that Loki and Hajrudin weren't present. And either way, the difference is Loki and Hajrudins current location may not be something he knows, but they are still citizens of Elbaf. Dorry and Broggy explicitly left the country decades ago, I'm not sure how you could miss that....
 
#15
Doesn't seem entirely clear that he wasn't aware that Loki was imprisoned honestly, it just seems like the guards were making that statement not knowing the urgency of the fact that he needed to be stopped, it doesn't seem like he was shocked at the mention that Loki and Hajrudin weren't present. And either way, the difference is Loki and Hajrudins current location may not be something he knows, but they are still citizens of Elbaf. Dorry and Broggy explicitly left the country decades ago, I'm not sure how you could miss that....
If he were aware his first reaction should be to free Loki lol. But Harald said to call Loki and Hajrudin and his guards had to tell him that Loki was imprisoned.

I didn't miss that. What about Hajrudin? Harald didn't know where Hajrudin was. In his mind Hajrudin was in Elbaf. So Harald also thought that Dorry and Brogy were still in Elbaf. If he didnt know his own son location how did he know Dorry and Brogy location? People he didn't care about lol.

For some reason Harald chose to call Jarul not Dorry and Brogy who Harald thought were still in Elbaf lol.
 
#16
If he were aware his first reaction should be to free Loki lol. But Harald said to call Loki and Hajrudin and his guards had to tell him that Loki was imprisoned.
Maybe? We don't know the legal system of Elbaf, or if Loki burning down the village caused excess casualties,or if Loki even revealed why he got mad at that guy(since most people in Elbaf don't seem to know, Loki could have kept it a secret, which is kind of a pattern with him)
I didn't miss that. What about Hajrudin? Harald didn't know where Hajrudin was. In his mind Hajrudin was in Elbaf.
I'm not saying you missed that, I'm saying it would be impossible for a character in the manga to miss that Dorry and Broggy aren't on Elbaf and are infamous pirates, as opposed to Harald not knowing if Hajrudin is currently on Elbaf or out traveling at the present time.

So Harald also thought that Dorry and Brogy were still in Elbaf. If he didnt know his own son location how did he know Dorry and Brogy location? People he didn't care about lol.

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The difference is pretty simple. Hajrudin is generally in Elbaf, and likely left pretty recently(wherever he went), and this could have all happened while Harald was doing Gods Knight shit, or was in Mariejois. OPverse obviously doesn't have internet or texting, so it's not exactly easy to know where people are 24/7, unless you're calling them on a den den mushi. Dorry and Broggy left over 80 years ago,which is a pretty significant time
 
#17
Maybe? We don't know the legal system of Elbaf, or if Loki burning down the village caused excess casualties,or if Loki even revealed why he got mad at that guy(since most people in Elbaf don't seem to know, Loki could have kept it a secret, which is kind of a pattern with him)
That's impossible. Harald first reaction should be to free Loki not to call Loki lol if Harald knew Loki was in prison.

'm not saying you missed that, I'm saying it would be impossible for a character in the manga to miss that Dorry and Broggy aren't on Elbaf and are infamous pirates, as opposed to Harald not knowing if Hajrudin is currently on Elbaf or out traveling at the present time.
Yet Harald missed that Hajrudin left Elbaf. Harald missed that Loki was in the prison lol. His own family should be top priority for him.

The difference is pretty simple. Hajrudin is generally in Elbaf, and likely left pretty recently(wherever he went), and this could have all happened while Harald was doing Gods Knight shit, or was in Mariejois. OPverse obviously doesn't have internet or texting, so it's not exactly easy to know where people are 24/7, unless you're calling them on a den den mushi. Dorry and Broggy left over 80 years ago,which is a pretty significant time
And Harald was busy travelling to improve the relationship between giants and other nations lol. There's no rpoof Harald knew what happened to Dorry and Brogy. He didn't know Dorry and Brogy condition just like he didn't know Hajruidin and Loki condition. He didn't call them because they're insignificant compared to Jarul lol.
 
#19
This is actually the dumbest thread I've ever seen.

Because he was calling the people that were on the island, or who he thought was on the island (Hajrudin).

Why would he ask for people that hadn't been around for decades, across the entire world?
How did he know Dorry and Brogy weren't in the island? Harald didn't know his own son Hajrudin left Elbaf lol. Harald didn't know his own son Loki was in prison lol.

So there's no proof Harald knew Dorry and Brogy left Elbaf. He assumed they were in Elbaf just like Hajrudin.

Dorry and Brogy weren't called because they're insignificant compared to Jarul lel.
 
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