Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1170 Spoilers Discussion

What fruit does Loki have?

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GeneralP123

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TheD. said:
Not even true
How would shanks who lost his arm and shanks who stopped dueling with mihawk(which would’ve caused him to haki bloom) somehow get strong enough haki to beat loki.Nothing about shanks beating loki makes zero sense and oda is clearly writing Lokis story as a subverted expectation.I KEEP HAVING TO REPEAT MYSELF EVERYTHING WE LEARNED ABOUT LOKI HAS ALMOST ALWAYS BEEN FALSE OR PROPAGANDA.
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It does make sense, Loki is a natural beast and has a great fruit which can help you bypass durability/regen via hax, but he had almost zero real fighting experience, no real situations in which he can improve his haki, he just chilled on Elbaph 24/7.
 
TheD.

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Elder Lee Hung said:


Lord help me

Okay so just to be clear, base Loki now not only has a claim to being stronger than Harald outright, but also has claim to be directly as strong as Holy Knight Harald. Which matches the portrayal of them clashing last chapter.


^Remember when the usual suspects said that this wasn’t a CoC clash? Well now Loki shattered CoC armor Harald into pieces. Lol

Okay so base Loki ~ Holy Knight Harald is absolutely on the table now….but prime Gaban and prime Saint Shanks could not injure Harald at all? And Harald was also murdering dozens of giants while they watched helplessly??????

But Saint Shanks captured Woki, right? @TheD. @sanjikun anyone who still believes Saint Shanks could ever be stronger than base Loki probably believes everything the media tells them irl. Lol

And after Saint Shanks and Gaban fail to dent Harald while he murders dozens of giants, a rookie fruited Woki + Ragnir come in and shatter Harald straight up. LOL

“But Loki isn’t God Tier!!!”

There is a legitimate, high chance that Ragnir by itself is stronger than every Yonko and every Admiral (RIP). There is a chance that Loki’s hammer by itself can convincingly defeat Saint Shanks.

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Alright so I’m going to start my work on a no-trolling, updated tier list. My thesis is that the term “top tier” is now obsolete as Elbaph (an arc themed around strength and the strongest) has introduced characters that clearly surpass the top tiers.

I propose the following tier system that better articulates the top tier and characters stronger than them.

“World’s Strongest” -> This would be characters who encompass the current “mid or even high top tier” like baseline Yonko such as Saint Shanks, baseline Admirals like Fujitora or Aokiji, etc.

Then you have “Era’s strongest” -> These are characters who surpass the strongest in the world, they are the strongest of an entire era. This would be peak top tiers like Primebeard, Roger, maybe Akainu…basically the standout top tiers.

Then you have “History’s Strongest” -> these are characters who are the strongest over a specific period of history or even all of known history like Ryuma, whoever the strongest Marine ever is (Wakazuki), maybe like Joy Boy, etc…

And lastly you have the true “God Tier”, which would be characters so strong they basically come to be worshipped as Gods like Imu, maybe Joy Boy, maybe Davy Jones, maybe others, etc……..

So when I first predicted that Loki would be “God Tier”, what I meant was that he would be the first character to far exceed the strength of the current top tiers. Now that Oda has more fleshed out this level of power, and now that I have had more time to look at this shit, I would retcon my original statement about Loki to say that he belongs in the “History’s Strongest” Tier. IE, far stronger than any of the current top tiers but not actually a literal God (I never thought he would be a literal God or literally unstoppable lol).

I think this works perfectly for Loki, as Loki will be the strongest giant in the history of Elbaph, he was born the son of maybe Elbaph’s strongest King and he ate the prophesied Devil Fruit and wields the prophesied weapon, etc…I think Loki fulfills multiple Elbaph prophesies so he is probably the strongest giant of all time.

If you would ask me, I think this is how Oda is really powerscaling his top tiers now that we are entering the era of One Piece where we are about to battle history itself.

Anyway thoughts @Veku @Sentinel @Tyki_Mikk @Uncle Van @whoever cares



Like I said above. The fucking hammer is way stronger than Saint Shanks. The fucking hammer.
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It’s insane lol it’s crazy how some of these people would probably fall for propaganda in real life if this is just the easiest shit to read and understand
 
ImmaIvanoM

ImmaIvanoM

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GeneralP123 said:
He breaks it with a hax fruit, he would get dogwalked without it.
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What’s hax about the fruit?

If the fruit only gives you like physical power boosts and doesn’t just give you an actual Hax power like “draining your soul” or whatever then Loki beating Harald with AdvCoC is just loki

it’s AdvCoC that’s beats regeneration. Meaning the DF doesn’t contribute anything besides physical stat boosts
 
TheD.

TheD.

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GeneralP123 said:
It does make sense, Loki is a natural beast and has a great fruit which can help you bypass durability/regen via hax, but he had almost zero real fighting experience, no real situations in which he can improve his haki, he just chilled on Elbaph 24/7.
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Who did shanks fighting after losing his arm? He never dueled with mihawk after that so he would he have gotten a haki bloom,by wanking his arm so much that It caused his strength to bloom?
 
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