Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1170 Spoilers Discussion

[Monster Zoro's Tesla Supplier]

Bro is a teenager and is casually above EOS Zoro/Sanji/Prime Rayleigh

Lol.

 

[TheD.]

Loki is essential for the endgame. He is also nerfed for the rest of Elbaf, I actually doubt that Elbaf Luffy will surpass him. If the time travel theory is real, then we might get a lot more villains that will be a challenge for Loki. The twenty kings, maybe one of those creatures that were mentioned in the murals.

He’s a mythical zoan he should be fine I thought about that too but he should be able to recover super quick when he gets unchained and also ragnir should have some ability that could heal him

 

[Sir Yasheen]

Problem is if the connection can be severed it feels like Harald didn’t need to die?

 

[park_min young]

. But they have to unchained him and give him best quality food. It work like one piece logic. We can debate if loki is nerf or not if he didn't eat food for entire arc while battle Holy knight. Also he didn't parry yet.

If Loki eat plenty of food and oda wrote down Loki feel full power like Eggland luffy need food to gain energy.
Same thing happen to luffy after beating Bluneo before facing rob lucci.

Let’s read the rest of the arc and see whether it’s ever brought up again. If it is then Loki is basically nerfed like Zoro during Arlong’s Park.

 

[Sir Yasheen]

When?

I thought you meant destroying the seal which Usopp did

 

[ZenZu]

the solution for everything is "just add more haki bro"

Other than for Loki apparently?

 

[Doggo]

Problem is if the connection can be severed it feels like Harald didn’t need to die?

Because Harald has a Deep Sea mark?

 

[Kurozumi Wiwi]

Honestly the fact that Loki’s weapon by itself is a top tier might be one of the craziest things I’ve read in a while @Elder Lee Hung

Bro is a teenager and is casually above EOS Zoro/Sanji/Prime Rayleigh

I mean with Harald starting the use the same CoC barrier as Xebec, this Loki is probably above Garp/Roger too

Harald is Loki's floor narrarively.
Loki has Harald ancient heritage but his eyes make him even more of an unique existence

 

[soheilhazrat]

Honestly the fact that Loki’s weapon by itself is a top tier might be one of the craziest things I’ve read in a while @Elder Lee Hung

Bro is a teenager and is casually above EOS Zoro/Sanji/Prime Rayleigh

I mean with Harald starting the use the same CoC barrier as Xebec, this Loki is probably above Garp/Roger too

Loki is eos sanji and zoro victim since he will join sh crew and or sh fleet, anyone there is going to be weaker than m3

 

[EmperorKinyagi]

Lol.

Gaban is essentially just past his prime and can’t do anything against Harald, and this is the Shanks that Mihawk had legendary duels (possibly after the duels btw).

From this chapter it appears that Loki is not only above them but potentially a fucking hammer is too 💀

 

[SDfear]

Problem is if the connection can be severed it feels like Harald didn’t need to die?

He didn't have full control, it wasn't like when Xebec was killed

 

[EmperorKinyagi]

Loki is eos sanji and zoro victim since he will join sh crew and or sh fleet, anyone there is going to be weaker than m3

We just watched an EOS Sanji parallel get dogged by Harald

 

[Kurozumi Wiwi]

Also theoretically if turns out all of the Gorosei are Harald/Xebec level because they have immortality AND conquerors haki, than their Egghead showing is one of the most nonsensical things I’ve literally ever read @Shiroyru @TheKnightOfTheSea @TheAncientGorosei

I feel Gaban emphasizing HKs not having COC is not random. Likely going to be why bypassing Gorosei immortality will be much harder than for HKs

 

[zenox]

Also theoretically if turns out all of the Gorosei are Harald/Xebec level because they have immortality AND conquerors haki, than their Egghead showing is one of the most nonsensical things I’ve literally ever read @Shiroyru @TheKnightOfTheSea @TheAncientGorosei

i think the difference between holly roppo and gorosei is the presence of advanced conquerors haki

 

[Kurozumi Wiwi]

We just watched an EOS Sanji parallel get dogged by Harald

Yeah it's over. Forget current Loki, Rookie Loki folds

 

[soheilhazrat]

We just watched an EOS Sanji parallel get dogged by Harald

Gaban is sanjis floor

 

[Moewu]

Kaido learned about Joy Boy from Rocks. But, Rocks didn't know about Nika, just Joy Boy.

When Kaido saved King, he thought he could be Joy Boy.

IMO, when Kaido found Jack at Fish-Man Island, he also talked to Shyalrly (who, as a 3-year-old was somehow already doing prophecies). This was around the same time Queen joined up.

Whatever Shylarly told Kaido, is what dictated everything he did after that point. I think she more or less told Kaido:
-You aren't Joy Boy. Joy Boy is the man who will defeat you. Your defeat will lead to the Dawn.
-You will die in the land of Wano, to a Samurai

2nd part is ZKK dependent and iffier, but I 100% Shylarly told Kaido to his face he isn't Joy Boy.

Once Kaido couldn't be Joy Boy, he dedicated his life to creating Joy Boy. IMO, Kaido thought it would be Ace, and got really depressed post-Marineford. Luffy becoming Joy Boy IS WHAT KAIDO WANTED, but, obviously, Luffy had to earn that shit.

No, what you wrote makes sense. I was just trying to figure out what the legendary elbaf fruit could be, so I tried to go at it from a different perspective. Since apparently the leakers say there are arguments for both a fenrir and a nidhogg fruit.

But you are right, Joyboy and Sungod Nika are different. I guess we have to wait for the raws. Perhaps it's even something completely different.



(Speaking of Madame Shyarly, her powers of foresight are still insane to me, hopefully we will learn more).

 

[Soyz]

Honestly the fact that Loki’s weapon by itself is a top tier might be one of the craziest things I’ve read in a while @Elder Lee Hung

Bro is a teenager and is casually above EOS Zoro/Sanji/Prime Rayleigh

I mean with Harald starting the use the same CoC barrier as Xebec, this Loki is probably above Garp/Roger too

If Loki break through herald coc barrier then he is at least comparable to Garp + Roger in terms of AP

 

[SDfear]

If Loki break through herald coc barrier then he is at least comparable to Garp + Roger in terms of AP

With Ragnir

 

[Sir Yasheen]

Because Harald has a Deep Sea mark?

So the connection isn’t severed? I’m genuinely confused what WGHQ means by that?