Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1170 Spoilers Discussion

[Julius]

It was an exhausted Loki that one tapped and exploded Harald's body. And he was in base form too, not even hybrid

"Coated with Conquerors Haki and Lightning"

 

[sanjikun]

Does he use haki better? Like genuinely Loki seems way more proficient haki user??

Wtf are you talking about? Loki didnt even know what CoC is.

 

[Mr. Reloaded]

I think so many of you here have such awful takes because you've just not creative enough to appreciate the effort that goes into making these characters interesting.

It's why most people that think Kaidou is getting powecrept are imbeciles without a creative bone in their body.

Yamato is a Strawhat in waiting. You don't have to like it.

Literally the whole reason she stayed behind was because Momonosuke and his scabbards were inadequate as a protector, why would she leave? lol

 

[Rumble]

This clown has been so scarred by recent Admiral greatness that he is resorting to debunked 2011 arguments


In the modern manga we know that fruitless Admirals beat the world’s strongest pirate (Marineford Whitebeard) when they aren’t nerfed lol.

Admiral stans need to stop grasping at relevance, bro.

There's a reason the mfer Rocks deaded gets referred to as fucking Jiaga.

The major leagues need their gatekeepers. That's what Admirals are good for.

By the end of this arc, Zoro and Sanji will be at least as strong as them. Before long, they'll surpass them completely and compete with the big fish of the world.

 

[Tyki_Mikk]

@Naomi
How it feel to lose the bet :)

 

[sanjikun]

And they probably lowballed it like they did with Luffy lol. They probably want to keep his legendary fruit a secret like what they wanted to happen with Nika fruit. This was also from 6 years ago, right? Who knows what Loki’s bounty will be now lol.

How is WG lowballing Luffy? They did the same shit as in DR, where Luffy/Law shared credit for Doffy's defeat and got equal bounties.

Only when Luffy gets solo feats like WCI his bounty will go up.

 

[fakespoilerdetector]

There is no way that loki is stronger than luffy .
People have gone crazy .
Luffy already know to use his haki better for eg .

LOL, this Ragnir is outmatched. Kaido's legendary weapon couldn't do anything against Gear Five Luffy. Only true Haki can reach him. People forget, he bent space-time against Rob Lucci, freezing the moment. His power is reality itself, a true Toon Force. No other Devil Fruit warps the world like this.

 

[Sir Yasheen]

Wtf are you talking about? Loki didnt even know what CoC is.

Loki didn’t know how he killed Harald. Harald survived CoC attacks fine.

the fandom just assumed Loki was talking about CoC

 

[Jackteo]

Yeah but Loki seems more like a weapon user

Idk I’m probably overthinking it

I agree. While I do hope Loki has the Fenrir DF and Ragnir goes to Usopp I'm sure Loki won't just stop using the squirrel hammer

Loki vs Shamrock is happening for sure and the guy has a DF weapons. A DF weapons will be needed against that

 

[OPKnK]

Does he use haki better? Like genuinely Loki seems way more proficient haki user??

Loki did not even know he was using ACoC like Zoro when Gaban was talking to them .
While luffy knew what Gaban was talking about .

 

[AverageBuggyEnjoyer]

1.5 more flashback chapters according to my calculations

Ngl I miss Luffy, Zoro and Sanji. Need to see them go off against Imunko

 

[D. Plant]

That was also my guess, had a debate with friends about it.
Either Luffy didn´t used adcoc in egghead or he simple couldn´t overcome the CoC guard of the Gorosei.

HK = Regeneration + Transportation + Strength boost
Gorosei = Regeneration + True Immortal + Transportation + Strength boost + Yokai Power + CoC(Imu power boost)

Remember God Valley?
None of the legends could hurt Saturn body, they all attacked with CoC.
Most likely because he had Imu CoC guard, a reason why no one could damaged him.

And we know Imu is linked to all Gorosei, a reason why Imu was screaming from Joyboy haki too...
Simply to beat the Gorosei, you need the maximum CoC power or you fail to do it.

To said, the fact Gaban and Shanks couldn´t do much to Harald, but Loki did, tells me that there is more to Loki devilfruit power. There is a reason why Xebec wanted Harald to eat that df.

Maybe it has soul damaging power, can attack and bypass Imu regen power with the soul manipulation.
If we look at it, Loki devilfruit could be a combo of both Kaido+Big Mom devilfruit powers, which would make it truly legendary.

Luffy's Acoc probably isn't refined enough like what Gaban said to him.

 

[Dragon777]

Y'all have dog shit literacy for real.

Imagine thinking someone on par with another one who needed 40 YO Roger + Garp to be put down has, idk, the same haki as BM. Or even worse, maybe.
The same someone prime Gaban + 25 YO Shanks could not harm, btw.

And the problem It's us lol.

 

[sanjikun]

Loki didn’t know how he killed Harald. Harald survived CoC attacks fine.

the fandom just assumed Loki was talking about CoC

Um, Gaban was talking about how to use CoC and he replied "that's what it was?"

 

[Rumble]

Literally the whole reason she stayed behind was because Momonosuke and his scabbards were inadequate as a protector, why would she leave? lol

Wait and see.

She's finishing this pilgrimage with some followers that will likely stay behind and protect Wano.

 

[Garps tekkai]

Just saw the Ragnir part. So fighting Loki is like fighting 2 top tiers at once and strong ones at that. We also cannot forget that Ragnir will probably be 20+m tall aswell and it can scrap with Loki, so that thing wields a tremendous amount of raw power and if it broke his hammer, it's likely super durable aswell.
Crazy to think about that Ragnir probablly will enter top 30 lists now

 

[warsame zaylai]

Random question
doesnt Loki here debunk gaban ?
Gaban said haki is only useful when you consciously control it

Loki doesnt how to use acoc
but according to the spoilers he has stronger acoc then prime gaban and managed to hurt harald even tho he doesnt know acoc

 

[Welkin]

Chopper acoc soon ??
Chopper only a handful of the very strongest debate ??
Chopper > kaido ?

2 things with this

1. Oda clearly used this to give Chopper a reason to race after Gaban when he lost (would’ve died otherwise)

2. This whole thing could be a misdirect and there’s a way to harm them without CoC

 

[zenox]

An interaction between kaido and loki would have been pretty fire ngl

 

[Rumble]

Imagine thinking someone on par with another one who needed 40 YO Roger + Garp to be put down has, idk, the same haki as BM. Or even worse, maybe.

And the problem It's us lol.

Imagine thinking GV mfers were at their prime when the manga goes out of it way to tell that wasn't the case.

Dog shit literacy for real.