Powers & Abilities Can you spot the difference b/w Shanks wizard mastery vs Zoro's swordsmanship

[HA001]

Beckman > Yasopp
Shanks > Mihawk

Both Mihawk and Yasopp more skilled, but stronger Haki users are better.

That's why Roger wasn't WGS as well, Roger > Mihawk.


Lmao you liar clown changing argument everytime, I never do. I am crushing you every single time. You run away from WGS and WSM difference.

Garp trains without Haki.

Garp uses Haki to fight.

Is Garp's martial art attack stronger with Haki? Yes, because he uses something else to combine it.

He could also use DF to combine it, it wouldn't make the skill stronger. The attack would be stronger.

Same logic dumb clown.

Checkmate, next time don't use retarded shits like haki = swordsmanship you absolute liar.

Thats the point lmfao

Garps strongest attacks ARE BECAUSE OF HAKI

Zoros strongest swordskill IS BECAUSE OF HAKI

Mihawk is the strongest swordsman BECAUSE OF HAKI

 

[Welkin]

We’re still having Shanks the championship belt kickboxer arguments in 2025 going on 2026?

If you think Shanks is stronger than Mihawk fine but Shanks not being a swordsman is one of the stupidest points you could possibly make

 

[Erkan12]

You’re making up more headcanon. Who has told you that Yasopp is “more skilled” than Beckmann.

It’s definitely not in the manga. Is it from those dreadful vivre cards you were just insulting two replies ago?

post it then. If it’s from Vivre cards then post them. Or else you’re making shit up again and expecting me to believe you

Roger wasn’t WSS because he never proved it. Mihaak vivre card (again those terrible Vivre cards you hate) says that Mihawk went around the world to prove he is WSS

Mihawk has the title because he proved he was the strongest by literally going around the whole world to do so.

hehe, but let me guess, you don’t believe the Vivre cards, except when you want to make claims about yasopp. Bring the Vivre card that makes that claim

If vivrecard saying Haki = swordsmanship, of course that's retarded as ZKKfans are.

Yasopp is the sniper, not Beckman.

Of course Yasopp is more skilled with rifle.

But Beckman > Yasopp due to Haki.

If Mihawk had better Haki as WGS, then WB wouldn't be WSM that's it.

Zolo's attack vs Monet proves, Haki isn't involved in WGS title.

Otherwise Mihawk would be WSM, not WGS. If someone is stronger than Shanks, then that guy is WSM for sure.

We’re still having Shanks the championship belt kickboxer arguments in 2025 going on 2026?

If you think Shanks is stronger than Mihawk fine but Shanks not being a swordsman is one of the stupidest points you could possibly make

Who says he isn't a swordsman?

I say Beckman > Yasopp, Shanks > Mihawk same logic. Just like Roger wasn't WGS, but also Roger > WGS Mihawk.

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Thats the point lmfao

Garps strongest attacks ARE BECAUSE OF HAKI

Zoros strongest swordskill IS BECAUSE OF HAKI

Mihawk is the strongest swordsman BECAUSE OF HAKI

That's why Garp trains without Haki, to improve the skill.

Zolo doesn't use Haki and uses named attack because Haki and swordsmanship are 2 different categories.

 

[GalaxyLevelShanks]

If vivrecard saying Haki = swordsmanship, of course that's retarded as ZKKfans are.

If Oda shows haki = swordsmanship then Oda is retarded like ZKKfans also right? 🔥🔥🔥

 

[Erkan12]

If Oda shows haki = swordsmanship then Oda is retarded like ZKKfans also right? 🔥🔥🔥

Yes, because that's never going to happen.

Haki and swordsmanship are 2 different categories Oda himself said it.

 

[HA001]

If vivrecard saying Haki = swordsmanship, of course that's retarded as ZKKfans are.

Yasopp is the sniper, not Beckman.

Of course Yasopp is more skilled with rifle.

But Beckman > Yasopp due to Haki.

If Mihawk had better Haki as WGS, then WB wouldn't be WSM that's it.

Zolo's attack vs Monet proves, Haki isn't involved in WGS title.

Otherwise Mihawk would be WSM, not WGS. If someone is stronger than Shanks, then that guy is WSM for sure.

Who says he isn't a swordsman?

I say Beckman > Yasopp, Shanks > Mihawk same logic. Just like Roger wasn't WGS, but also Roger > WGS Mihawk.

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Marksmanship is skill.
Adding Haki won't make the skill better.

Same with martial art, adding Haki won't make the skill better.

That's why Garp trains without Haki, to improve the skill.

Zolo doesn't use Haki and uses named attack because Haki and swordsmanship are 2 different categories.

Easily debunked

The marksmen with better coo is A BETTER MARKSMEN lmfao

Haki absolutely makes you better and stronger

 

[ImmaIvanoM]

Of course Yasopp is more skilled with rifle.

You keep making shit up.

I’m sorry my guy, I will not believe You without proof

Mihawk isn’t WSM for the same reason Shanks is not. WB got that title by being equal to Roger. That’s what the title means

that’s why there is no WSM after Whitebeard died, because the title specifically comes from Whitebeard having been equal to Roger.

So are you ready to provide a source for your “Yassop is more skilled than Beckmann” from any source at all

 

[Erkan12]

Easily debunked

The marksmen with better coo is A BETTER MARKSMEN lmfao

Haki absolutely makes you better and stronger

Beckman > Yasopp proves otherwise dumb clown.

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WB got that title by being equal to Roger. That’s what the title means

Same Roger who wasn't WGS. Roger proves why Shanks > Mihawk.

Roger = WB
Shanks = WB
Shanks = WB > Mihawk.

 

[GalaxyLevelShanks]

Yes, because that's never going to happen.

Haki and swordsmanship are 2 different categories Oda himself said it.

Erkan I have some simple questions for you. What do you think Zoro’s dream is? Becoming the most skilled swordsman ever or what? How can he become the strongest swordsman in the world but be behind other swordsmen?

Even if there’s a hard distinction between skill and haki, do you think it’s common for a shonen character who’s one of the protagonists (strawhats) to have such a convoluted goal when it’s repeatedly shown that his goal is about overall strength to the casual reader? Or do you think Zoro will gap other swordsmen using his skill difference?

And how does this feed into the overall narrative?

 

[HA001]

Beckman > Yasopp proves otherwise dumb clown.

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Same Roger who wasn't WGS.

?
Beckman is not a more accurate shot than yassop lmfao


Beckman is stronger DUE TO HAVING BETTER HAKI

Just like mihawk

 

[HA001]

Oda himself said it.


Zoro - teach me the way of the sword
Mihawk - teaches zoro haki

 

[Erkan12]

?
Beckman is not a more accurate shot than yassop lmfao


Beckman is stronger DUE TO HAVING BETTER HAKI

Just like mihawk

If you don't think Shanks's Haki > Mihawk's Haki you are seriously retarded.

 

[HA001]

If you don't think Shanks's Haki > Mihawk's Haki you are seriously retarded.

Show me where oda said shanks haki is stronger than mihawks

 

[GalaxyLevelShanks]

Show me where oda said shanks haki is stronger than mihawks

At best Shanks has more varied CoC techniques like CoO negation and wifi haki. But now even the latter can be stopped with CoC barrier. When it comes to raw sword clashing then Mihawk’s ACoC (the haki that matters) trumps Shanks

 

[Erkan12]

Oda himself said it.


Zoro - teach me the way of the sword
Mihawk - teaches zoro haki

Even Ray trained Luffy to have better DF skill, I debunked this nonsense already.

Show me where oda said shanks haki is stronger than mihawks

I told you, if you don't believe Shanks's Haki > Mihawk's Haki, you are retarded.

Shanks was a genius used Kamusari as an apprentice when Ray and Gaban couldn't. (which gave you another L when you lied Shanks was fodder like Buggy lmao)
Shanks wifi-diffed an Admiral.
Shanks shown future sight.

Mihawk showed none and I doubt he will be even comparable in terms of Haki.

 

[GalaxyLevelShanks]

Even Ray trained Luffy to have better DF skill, I debunked this nonsense already.

I told you, if you don't believe Shanks's Haki > Mihawk's Haki, you are retarded.

Shanks was a genius used Kamusari as an apprentice when Ray and Gaban couldn't. (which gave you another L when you lied Shanks was fodder like Buggy lmao)
Shanks wifi-diffed an Admiral.
Shanks shown future sight.

Mihawk showed none and I doubt he will be even comparable in terms of Haki.

You prolly missed my question due to a lot of notifications

Erkan I have some simple questions for you. What do you think Zoro’s dream is? Becoming the most skilled swordsman ever or what? How can he become the strongest swordsman in the world but be behind other swordsmen?

Even if there’s a hard distinction between skill and haki, do you think it’s common for a shonen character who’s one of the protagonists (strawhats) to have such a convoluted goal when it’s repeatedly shown that his goal is about overall strength to the casual reader? Or do you think Zoro will gap other swordsmen using his skill difference?

And how does this feed into the overall narrative?

 

[HA001]

Even Ray trained Luffy to have better DF skill, I debunked this nonsense already.

I told you, if you don't believe Shanks's Haki > Mihawk's Haki, you are retarded.

Shanks was a genius used Kamusari as an apprentice when Ray and Gaban couldn't. (which gave you another L when you lied Shanks was fodder like Buggy lmao)
Shanks wifi-diffed an Admiral.
Shanks shown future sight.

Mihawk showed none and I doubt he will be even comparable in terms of Haki.

How does that debunk anything.


Zoro asked him to teach him the way of thw sword

All he taught him was haki.

 

[BestGen]

Mihawk’s vivre card calls Shanks that.

Are you just pretending to understand Japanese? If you read the vivre cards yourself you would have seen Mihawk’s vivre card that directly calls Shanks “Sword master”

Yes I can understand
No source directly calls shanks or roger kengo directly
Even bs magazines and definitely not official manga or magazine

 

[GalaxyLevelShanks]

I told you, if you don't believe Shanks's Haki > Mihawk's Haki, you are retarded.

Shanks was a genius used Kamusari as an apprentice when Ray and Gaban couldn't. (which gave you another L when you lied Shanks was fodder like Buggy lmao)
Shanks wifi-diffed an Admiral.
Shanks shown future sight.

Mihawk showed none and I doubt he will be even comparable in terms of Haki.

Argumentative fallacy. This is argumentation from incredulity.

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Yes I can understand
No source directly calls shanks or roger kengo directly
Even bs magazines and definitely not official manga or magazine

Do magazines need to state that Roger has a penis and takes a shit daily for it to be true?

 

[BestGen]

Erkan I have some simple questions for you. What do you think Zoro’s dream is? Becoming the most skilled swordsman ever or what? How can he become the strongest swordsman in the world but be behind other swordsmen?

Even if there’s a hard distinction between skill and haki, do you think it’s common for a shonen character who’s one of the protagonists (strawhats) to have such a convoluted goal when it’s repeatedly shown that his goal is about overall strength to the casual reader? Or do you think Zoro will gap other swordsmen using his skill difference?

And how does this feed into the overall narrative?

Most don't even qualify for this title

Its about becoming the worlds number 1 Kengo