Apollo

The Sol King
@Apollo betting markets have the odds that the ayatollah falls above 65%.

If Iran falls what's next in the MENA?
I still doubt he falls without external intervention. Though the last 2 days had more intense protest turnout, tonight was mild and counterprotests in favor of the regime have been bigger. And it seems like they neutralized most Kurdish armed elements with the help of Turkish intelligence agencies. They also used a lot of brute force to suppress the protests in other areas.

But if Khamenei does get killed, I expect a lot of unrest across Iran and the Middle East. Today one of the prominent clerics in Iran warned they would declare a jihad and if enough shia mobilize across the region things will get heated. Moreover, he still has support with about a third of the population including the army and IRGC. Imagine taking down the pope, it'll be something like that for the shia who support him.

@Apollo where did the Whole "Lurs are Kurds" stuff come from?
They are in practice a Persian Dialect from what I know
Lurs are two groups afaik, one speaks closer to Persian while the others speak closer to Kurdish. They are about equal in number in Luristan. Its probably the Kurdish half they're counting as Kurds.
 
I just found out that in the 1980s/early 90s, damn near every female Iranian prisoner used to be raped by the prison guards so they don’t go to heaven. I don’t know if the practice is still relevant in the 2020s but it’s absolutely horrific that this type of thing ever happened. Evil regime man
 
I just found out that in the 1980s/early 90s, damn near every female Iranian prisoner used to be raped by the prison guards so they don’t go to heaven. I don’t know if the practice is still relevant in the 2020s but it’s absolutely horrific that this type of thing ever happened. Evil regime man
Patriarchy mate... Horrible, but not specifically an Iran problem.
 
A religious one primarily (something which enables the patriarchy). Not many countries where female prisoners are mass raped to not go to heaven.
The religious aspect is important of course, but while it convey the oppression here, is not THE problem (aside from the fundamentalism of course)

The problem (one of) is the worldwide domination system of patriarchy where women are dehumanized, seen as object and used as tools of repressions. This is horrible, but what can be seen here is common in a context of reactionary warfare systems.

The system - in this case - is highly patriarchal and reactionary. The usage of religion is not the motor, it's the symptom. By targeting these two parameters (instead of targeting Islam like the reactionary and imperialist in the west) we can decenter our vision from the reactionary lures, and we can look at the situation more clearly from a feminist and anti-imperialist point of view.

The situation in Iran is complicated and must be tackled with care or it risks being recuperated by the far right and imperialist interest. (which is already what is happening at the moment)
 
The religious aspect is important of course, but while it convey the oppression here, is not THE problem (aside from the fundamentalism of course)

The problem (one of) is the worldwide domination system of patriarchy where women are dehumanized, seen as object and used as tools of repressions. This is horrible, but what can be seen here is common in a context of reactionary warfare systems.

The system - in this case - is highly patriarchal and reactionary. The usage of religion is not the motor, it's the symptom. By targeting these two parameters (instead of targeting Islam like the reactionary and imperialist in the west) we can decenter our vision from the reactionary lures, and we can look at the situation more clearly from a feminist and anti-imperialist point of view.

The situation in Iran is complicated and must be tackled with care or it risks being recuperated by the far right and imperialist interest. (which is already what is happening at the moment)
Man, with all due respect, what on earth are you tryna say? Seems like you just wrote a lot without actually saying much other than "Patriarchy bad" which is... kinda obvious, no?
 
Man, with all due respect, what on earth are you tryna say? Seems like you just wrote a lot without actually saying much other than "Patriarchy bad" which is... kinda obvious, no?
At the moment, the far right and imperialists holds the subject of Iran and the leftists voices are invizibilized. Precisely because they are trapped between the imperialist recuperation, the reactionary recuperation and the critic of the regime. What I'm doing is trying, while failing obviously, to clarify the subject to prevent this recuperation here.

The religious aspect, while relevant, should be takled with care as it is the symptom, not the actual problem.

The problem is multipolar:
- Patriarchy
- Imperialism
- The reactionarism of the regime
- Israel and US interventions in protest
- Islamophobic reactionary recuperation in the west.

Just like in the case of Venezuela, if we are leftist, our critics must be precise, target the right problem to avoid any kind.

> Attacking the regime on the religion helps strenghten the far right in the west
> Pushing the rethorics for a "progressive" regime change helps the imperialist interest of the west

It's a walk on eggshell situation. That's why I'm a bit picky on the subject at the moment. And I recenter the problem on domination systems instead of directly targeting what can help my political enemies.
 
I just found out that in the 1980s/early 90s, damn near every female Iranian prisoner used to be raped by the prison guards so they don’t go to heaven. I don’t know if the practice is still relevant in the 2020s but it’s absolutely horrific that this type of thing ever happened. Evil regime man
It's meant to traumatize people. Heaven thing is just an excuse.


Far-right barely believes in religion. They worship money and power.
 
I implore you to do your own research but I'm sure it's a few google searches away. Literally everything you mentioned is what their books tells them to do. Except maybe molesting children. Which falls flat when you consider one of their prophets married a 6 year old and consummated their marriage at 9
It's absolutely terrible if that's actually the case. That's just fucked man
 
That's like, the worst thing I could be proven wrong on, lol. It's absolutely terrible that that's actually the case. That's just fucked man
Obviously don't generalise. Most religious people (like 99.99%) aren't aware of it and are mostly decent humans. But the foundings of their religion is very fucked by today's standards. Obviously the terrorists take it to the extremes but it's not like they're making something out of nothing. They're simply taking messed up teachings and adding their own extremism to it
 
The system - in this case - is highly patriarchal and reactionary. The usage of religion is not the motor, it's the symptom. By targeting these two parameters (instead of targeting Islam like the reactionary and imperialist in the west) we can decenter our vision from the reactionary lures, and we can look at the situation more clearly from a feminist and anti-imperialist point of view.
or we can criticize both, because islam at face value is still problematic in this context, regardless of patriarchal systems.

its a religion made by men for men to subjugate women among other groups of people.
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Far-right barely believes in religion.
this or they shape the interpretation of their religion according to their political goals
 
I implore you to do your own research but I'm sure it's a few google searches away. Literally everything you mentioned is what their books tells them to do. Except maybe molesting children. Which falls flat when you consider one of their prophets married a 6 year old and consummated their marriage at 9
See... that's the type of rethoric we should try to avoid.
 
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