Controversial General Political Discussion

[Logiko]

You can’t make a post begging people not to forget about Gaza then in the other hand forget about Sudan. I just found that pretty hypocritical

No one is forgetting about Sudan. F off.

I’m holding you by your standards.

No you are holding me by YOUR standard. I don't have a contract to talk about everything every day every time. I'm already struggling to stay uptodate with the gaza situation that destroy my mental health (which is obviously nothing compared to what they live) just by watching kids dying and crying every single hours of everysingle day. So again, F-off. I have nothing to prove to you and I owe you nothing. Take your reactionary rethoric and shuv it. It's not a fucking competition.

Nan mais y s'prend pour qui lui?


I think you guyz found my trigger button

 

[Roo]

No one is forgetting about Sudan. F off.

nobody is forgetting about gaza either?

No you are holding me by YOUR standard. I don't have a contract to talk about everything every day every time. I'm already struggling to stay uptodate with the gaza situation that destroy my mental health (which is obviously nothing compared to what they live) just by watching kids dying and crying every single hours of everysingle day. So again, F-off. I have nothing to prove to you and I owe you nothing. Take your reactionary rethoric and shuv it. It's not a fucking competition.

Nan mais y s'prend pour qui lui?


I think you guyz found my trigger button

Never made it one, again just pointing how your selective sympathy or at worst hypocriticism

 

[Logiko]

nobody is forgetting about gaza either?

Actually yes. People do. The cease fire created a drop in the support. But I wasn't targeting anyone.

Never made it one, again just pointing how your selective sympathy or at worst hypocriticism

ok i'm done with u, you get the ravager treatment:

 

[HerreraIsBack]

Actually yes. People do. The cease fire created a drop in the support. But I wasn't targeting anyone.

Damn ceasa fire saving lifes instead of killing them!

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I don’t hold myself to be an activist anywhere so idgaf, I’m holding you by your standards. If you want to keep bringing awareness about the Gaza genocide then make sure you have a post ready about Sudan soon after. They don’t have to divert from one another

Meanwhile Ukraine: .....................................

 

[King7]

I'm simply against them when they are lead by imperialist or colonial interests

I agree.....

I don't think i know enough politics, but it seems a big NO to the idea of these swamp monsters invading Iran :

● the Lancet is said to be one of the most prestigious medical publications in the world , and according to it US sanctions has caused 564.000 deaths per year

And more than half of that, seems to be children under 5 :

Spoiler

● here, a former US official justified the death of 500.000 Iraqi children ( didn't try to contest the number )
Which i think were also caused by US sanctions ----- i believe Abby Martin ( a great Pro Palestinian US journalist ) said that

● former director of UN's NYC office for Human Rights and International Lawyer, Craig Mokhiber, tweeted Israel currently holds the world record for murder of children

.....That was in response to Agnes Callamard of Amnesty International saying it shouldn't have taken the lives of 15.000 Palestinian children for Israel to be in the UN black list of abusers against children ( which included groups like ISIS )


So, no to the US bombing Iran to "help" it's people.
And no to another Israeli indiscriminate bombing of Iranian hospitals, tv/radio stations, Red Crescent office etc. Murdering over 1000 people

Also, isn't the main cause of this Iranian protest, the Economic Hardship ?
Which could be mainly caused by the thousands of sanctions imposed on Iran by the Western regimes.
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Also, is this 12.000 to 20.000 people dead numbers true anyway ?

If they only come out of Western Mainstream Medias, it wouldn't trust them.
It could be another bullshit like "Iraqi WMD" , or this "Narco-Terrorist" and "Dictator" bs narrative used to invade Venezuela.
Probably also the "Gaddafi Viagra" story.

Do those numbers include the Government /Police officers and Civilians who were presumably killed by the protesters ?
As a Palestinian supporter, I've been reading Pro Palestinian Iranian accounts on TW copy site ( TWstalker, cause i don't have a Twitter account so my viewing is very limited on the actual site )

And all those Iranians happen to be Pro Government.

AryJeay, Seyed Marandi, Persian Girl and this account are some names
https://twstalker.com/IRIran_Military

They have termed at least some protestors as "violent rioters" and even "terrorists" backed by CIA / Mossad
And they said the rioters have killed Police Officers and Bypassers who refused to join the Riots ( Civilians ).
And that they've burned Mosques, threw Molotov cocktails to a Mosque, burn down other Infrastuctures

Anyway, i don't know if the 12 or 20 thousand death toll is true, but if you read their Twitter accounts, it doesn't seem like most Iranians want to topple their Government ----- they've been saying how big Pro Government rallies were, and showing videos of the rallies in multiple cities

I'm sure Iranian people have legitimate issues with the Government ( maybe Corruption, maybe bad Policies ) but the main issue might be the Western Sanctions,

If Western Sanctions can be so devastating that they caused 500 thousand deaths in Iraq , and per year 564 thousand deaths worldwide , then maybe it's the 1000s of these sanctions that is the main cause of damage to the Iranian economy, which could be the main grievance/issue to the people of Iran

Edit : also, some days ago i think i heard a geopolitical analyst saying sanctions caused the deaths of 40.000 Venezuelans per year, in the first few years Western regimes started imposing sanctions on Venezuela

See if i can find the video

 

[Logiko]

● here, a former US official justified the death of 500.000 Iraqi children ( didn't try to contest the number )
Which i think were also caused by US sanctions ----- i believe Abby Martin ( a great Pro Palestinian US journalist ) said that

Wow, I didn't know this video. I think I need to puke

also, some days ago i think i heard a geopolitical analyst saying sanctions caused the deaths of 40.000 Venezuelans per year, in the first few years Western regimes started imposing sanctions on Venezuela

I don't know yet about the number of death caused by sanction, but they definitely smashed the country down

Recently I read what happened during the Chilean state coup of 1973, same thing. A country completely shocked up by US and western imperialism.

This country is a danger, massive danger. They supported the state coup, shocked up the socialist president in place with sanctions, chocked up the Chilean economy and payed millions to support the protest that would eventually lead to the coup of Pinochet who then killed thousands thorough his fascist regime.

And now.. people are going back supported by the same far right politician who are close to the ideology of that darn guy... They must go.

Give back the country to the native.

 

[King7]

I don't know yet about the number of death caused by sanction, but they definitely smashed the country down

Recently I read what happened during the Chilean state coup of 1973, same thing. A country completely shocked up by US and western imperialism.

This country is a danger, massive danger. They supported the state coup, shocked up the socialist president in place with sanctions, chocked up the Chilean economy and payed millions to support the protest that would eventually lead to the coup of Pinochet who then killed thousands thorough his fascist regime.

And now.. people are going back supported by the same far right politician who are close to the ideology of that darn guy... They must go.

Give back the country to the native.

I found the video :

That is Cypriot geopolitical commentator/analyst, Elina Xenophontos

At 1:27:40 ( close to the 88th minute ) she said :
"I think Jeffrey Sachs ( US Economist ) published a report saying 40.000 Venezuelans died per year as the result of sanctions directly, and that was a conservative estimate. The Venezuelan people have fought through far worse"

The other 2 guys are former US Army, Pro Palestinians and anti Colonialists, the Greg Stoker guy even participated in the Gaza Flotilla
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Anyway..... Iran is one of the most heavily sanctioned countries in the world.
I believe the West imposes like 2000 - 5000 sanctions on them, which intimidates potential investors from other countries ( maybe even including the Governments ) to not do any business with Iran

If the US/Israel have a bombing campaign again on the country, they'll definitely try to put their puppet in place, which may be the son of former Shah, living in the US
( i think his name is Reza Pahlavi ? )

Either that or they'll just force the country into a state of disarray/chaos, to ensure there is no state that can truly challenge Israel ( which Iran is ), and so Israel can "peacefully" continue bombing the caged Gaza population, Lebanese, and Syrians

In the future maybe they'll bomb Jordan, who knows.
The Jordanian monarchy has brought back the conscription.
And maybe manufacture some locally made weapons systems.

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Anyway..... i didn't know about the Chile info, thanks.
I'm also very anti this US regime, which is unusually aggressive even by US regimes standard.
Seeing their tweets justifying the cold blooded murder of Renee Good, is crazy and disgusting.
She was just trying to get away from ICE agents, and none of them were in her car's path, but this ICE monster shot her 3 times in the head.
*i just wanna state my position on this shooting.

 

[Uncle Van]

Anyway..... i didn't know about the Chile info, thanks.

I'm also very anti this US regime, which is unusually aggressive even by US regimes standards

Chile is simply one of the more popular examples of the US screwing over a nation. The US has a long history of destabilizing any socialist or anti-capitalist nation due to their fear of those counties joining hands with Russia. The US placed sanctions of any non-capitalist nation(including Russia), and placed blockades to cripple imports and strave them. Either the nation gives up or the U.S. helps overthrow the leader and establish a far rightist thag rules with an iron fist(usually). Then the U.S. can get their resources. The U.S. are very pro-colonialism.

Seeing their tweets justifying the cold blooded murder of Renee Good, is crazy and disgusting.
She was just trying to get away from ICE agents, and none of them were in her car's path, but this ICE monster shot her 3 times in the head.
*i just wanna state my position on this shooting.

Nah none of it is crazy. It is actually tame by U.S. standards. People tend to forget that discrimination and suppression of humans based on race, ethnicity, sex, sexual orientation, and gender identity was legal, encouraged, and American culture from 1776 until the 1960s(legally), with the decades following seeing constant attempts to role back the civil rights acts, and trying to return to "true american values" that are the pre-60s eras.

Some pretend that everything bad vanished overnight by signing papers that around 70% of people disapproved of.

 

[Monster Zoro's Tesla Supplier]

with the decades following seeing constant attempts to role back the civil rights acts, and trying to return to "true american values" that are the pre-60s eras.

I see this a lot on Twitter. Too many right wing accounts talk about returning to the 50s or 60s and it's very clear that it's because they want minorities/marginalized groups to be as oppressed as they were in those times.
Or, it's nostalgia. That's a much better, but seemingly less popular, reason.

 

[Roo]

as much as may dislike U.S intervention, it's not always bad. Again U.S literally stopped a genocide in Bosnia and pretty much saved Kuwaiit from a Iraqi invasion.

Even If we don't grant those, at what point does you distaste for western intervention outweigh atrocities? Let's say for example some bum fuck country outright states their massacring their population. Would you let those people die just to make it a point not to support a western led intervention?

 

[Uncle Van]

I see this a lot on Twitter. Too many right wing accounts talk about returning to the 50s or 60s and it's very clear that it's because they want minorities/marginalized groups to be as oppressed as they were in those times.
Or, it's nostalgia. That's a much better, but seemingly less popular, reason.

It's not just Twitter, but high-level influences and politicians as well. There were lots of speeches taking about white pride and true patriotism in the 60s and 70s in opposition to the equality acts of the 1960s. Today, you have VP Vance appealing to white pride and empowering white supremacy and nationalism. Many pretend that discrimination disappeared and mostly vanished because of the equality acts, so every non white Christian is simply being arrogant and demanding more for the sake of it. It never went away. Black people only had a 30% approval rating amount white Ameica, and 70% celebrated when MLK was killed. We had Joe Biden trying to pass segregation acts in the 70s. We had movements complete with television propaganda in the 60s and 70s saying gay people are sexual deviants by nature. When same-sex marriage was legalized in 2014, people went into a frenzy saying it shat on American values. We had 40th President Ronald Reagan opposing the equality acts and calling black women welfare queens even though majority of welfare recipients were white women. We got politicians in the 2020s banning the teachings of black history for being un-American.

Again, it never went away. It just gets rebranded with the same message and goal.

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as much as may dislike U.S intervention, it's not always bad. Again U.S literally stopped a genocide in Bosnia and pretty much saved Kuwaiit from a Iraqi invasion.

Even If we don't grant those, at what point does you distaste for western intervention outweigh atrocities? Let's say for example some bum fuck country outright states their massacring their population. Would you let those people die just to make it a point not to support a western led intervention?

True. North and South Korea being one of them. When they split, the U.S. backed the South and suppressed the North. The North is now dictatorship while everyone goes to the U.S.-backed South for vacations.

 

[Jew D. Boy]

https://www.reddit.com/r/UnderReportedNews/comments/1qbzjxr I’m so serious, I see old folks doing this kind of shambling shit every day at work and it usually augurs a rapid mental AND physical decline…I’m not saying what I’m saying…but believe me, he is deeply unwell and his age indicates he’s more likely at this point to have a massive stroke than a healthy bowel movement

 

[Monster Zoro's Tesla Supplier]

but believe me, he is deeply unwell and his age indicates he’s more likely at this point to have a massive stroke than a healthy bowel movement

 

[NikaInParis]

as much as may dislike U.S intervention, it's not always bad. Again U.S literally stopped a genocide in Bosnia and pretty much saved Kuwaiit from a Iraqi invasion.

Even If we don't grant those, at what point does you distaste for western intervention outweigh atrocities? Let's say for example some bum fuck country outright states their massacring their population. Would you let those people die just to make it a point not to support a western led intervention?

Stopped the genocide is a bit of a stretch. The civillian population was already decimated (genocided) by the point of US intervention. Add to that the fact we had to scrape by without any aid or weaponry except the stuff people had at their homes it's a miracle anyone even survived by the point of US intervention.

Funnily enough US intervention came at a time when our army reached an alliance with the Croatian millitary and got on the offensive. A few kilometers oitside of Banja Luka (today's administrative center of Republika Srpska) the coallition got an ultimatum from the US to stop advancing immediately or the Serbs wouldn't come to the table for any peace talks.

Would there be a need for peace talks with Banja Luka conquered, which was a given to happen?


Ironically enough it was Iran that smuggled the most amount of weaponry and humanitarian aid into Bosnia. Of course, by the time it reached us it was only a small percentage of the original package.

 

[AverageBuggyEnjoyer]

I’m honestly grateful that US, Middle East, Russia, etc... dominate political coverage and Canada stays under the radar. If you actually got to see the things our politicians say and do regularly like with the US and other more mainstream topics, you would think Trump and his cabinet are geniuses. You would think Kamala Harris is a high ranking Mensa member

 

[Midnight Delight]

Funnily enough US intervention came at a time when our army reached an alliance with the Croatian millitary and got on the offensive. A few kilometers oitside of Banja Luka (today's administrative center of Republika Srpska) the coallition got an ultimatum from the US to stop advancing immediately or the Serbs wouldn't come to the table for any peace talks.

Didn't the west screw over Bosniaks eventually?

The current situation is pretty much Serbs being the dominant force while the "Bosnian" part is half Croatian

Legit giving away those parts to Serbia and Croatia would have been preferred to bring a minority in your own country

 

[Bisoromi Bear]

nobody is forgetting about gaza either

Actually yes. People do.

Wahahahaha
AntiLogiko at it again. Gaza is THE most talked about genocide and you're right here saying the public forgets about it.
You are the embodiment of the 'i support the current thing 'meme

We had Joe Biden trying to pass segregation acts in the 70s

Goodness these people are so old

The North is now dictatorship

..a cult. Korea has major cult problems and the north is what happens when you let a cult run a country.

 

[Logiko]

You are the embodiment of the 'i support the current thing 'meme

Sometime, people should think less about trolling, and think more about the effect their words can have on people.

But you know what? Same thing:

 

[NikaInParis]

Didn't the west screw over Bosniaks eventually?

The current situation is pretty much Serbs being the dominant force while the "Bosnian" part is half Croatian

Legit giving away those parts to Serbia and Croatia would have been preferred to bring a minority in your own country

The current demographic situation is cloudy at best - there is no reliable hard numbers on how many people live here in total, let alone per nationality.

What can be assumed is that all 3 are demographically decimated due to the socio-economic climate and young people leave the country in hoardes yearly.

 

[Midnight Delight]

The current demographic situation is cloudy at best - there is no reliable hard numbers on how many people live here in total, let alone per nationality.

What can be assumed is that all 3 are demographically decimated due to the socio-economic climate and young people leave the country in hoardes yearly.

From what I have heard, the Serbian part is used by the EU as the "carrot" for "Good Behaviour" from Serbia in regards to Russia and Kosovo , in a pretty unethical way where Parts where Bosniaks were Ethnically cleansed were given to them, basically rewarded them for the genocide

Just like they rewarded Albanians for genociding Serbs in Kosovo

It's depressing to even read about