Speculations Did Shanks beat Loki in a clean 1 vs 1?

[Dragon777]

I doubt thats true lol
And pretty sure Blackbeard has met Buggy face to face
He was in same place as them in the rival clue

Met now, during Buggy's prime, so to speak.

About the rest, It's how Oda decided to play It out:

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But since the pre-TS:

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And a hundred other instances.

Those who know are only the ones who know personally Buggy, and adult Buggy I might add.

 

[SakazOuki]

I don't care about Kaido anymore. This is 3rd time I am saying this to you. Old WSM WB > Rat.

@Levi

 

[Levi]

@Levi

Im gonna let him do him

 

[sanjikun]

Yeah, but Rocks would have died if it weren´t for plot armor? They obviously don´t want Loki to end up in the same situation...

And Harald literally went to Mariejois to kneel and beg to work for the government. You don´t think Loki can do that?

Rocks killed an Admiral. That was the prize of admission to Mariejois. Loki took almost a decade, and all he had to show for it was laying waste to random pirates and getting owned by Shanks.

Jarul told him you're over your head for a reason.

Why are people even bothering with sanji kun? He is the same guy who thinks this was not King Kong gun but Kong gun

Wtf are you going on about? I never said that was "Kong Gun", just a different move than KKG.

The issue is people thought Luffy was renaming moves because of ACoC, and that's not the case. Jet Culverin + ACoC is still Jet Culverin.

 

[Loki D. Terror]

Rocks killed an Admiral. That was the prize of admission to Mariejois. Loki took almost a decade, and all he had to show for it was laying waste to random pirates and getting owned by Shanks.

Jarul told him you're over your head for a reason.

Wtf are you going on about? I never said that was "Kong Gun", just a different move than KKG.

The issue is people thought Luffy was renaming moves because of ACoC, and that's not the case. Jet Culverin + ACoC is still Jet Culverin.

You said it was acoc kong gun not acoc king kong gun

 

[sanjikun]

You said it was acoc kong gun not acoc king kong gun

No I didn't. Over Kong Gun is halfway between a Kong Gun and a KKG. It trades some of the power of KKG for a faster attack.

Same thing as Elephant Gun and Roc Gun. Luffy was using both Elephant Gun and Roc Gun even with the ACoA. He didn't "rename" attacks.

 

[Loki D. Terror]

No I didn't. Over Kong Gun is halfway between a Kong Gun and a KKG

Over kong gun = Acoc KKG genius.

 

[sanjikun]

Over kong gun = Acoc KKG genius.

Yeah that was my point dipshit. Luffy didn't rename his attacks after getting new Haki.

ACoC Jet Culverin is still called Jet Culverin. ACoA Elephant Gun was still called Elephant Gun. Some people were convinced he was renaming attacks because of the new Haki. KG is KG, OKG is OKG, KKG is KKG. They're all different attacks.

 

[Loki D. Terror]

Yeah that was my point dipshit. Luffy didn't rename his attacks after getting new Haki.

ACoC Jet Culverin is still called Jet Culverin. ACoA Elephant Gun was still called Elephant Gun. Some people were convinced he was renaming attacks because of the new Haki. KG is KG, OKG is OKG, KKG is KKG. They're all different attacks.

You can't fool me bro. You kept arguing over/surpreme kong gun was kong with acoc haki.

 

[sanjikun]

You can't fool me bro. You kept arguing over/surpreme kong gun was kong with acoc haki.

Why the fuck would it be Kong Gun? Kong Gun is not an inflated move. This was inflated just not to the same extent as KKG. Like I said it's a halfway move between KG and KKG.

And again, I don't see why that matters anyhow. G4 was not enough for Flaming Bagua. It was enough to fight base/hybrid, but he needed Bajrang at the end.

 

[Loki D. Terror]

Why the fuck would it be Kong Gun? Kong Gun is not an inflated move. This was inflated just not to the same extent as KKG. Like I said it's a halfway move between KG and KKG.

And again, I don't see why that matters anyhow. G4 was not enough for Flaming Bagua. It was enough to fight base/hybrid, but he needed Bajrang at the end.

You were salty because doffy got folded by KKG and Kaido tanked it like nothing.

 

[ZenZu]

You were salty because doffy got folded by KKG and Kaido tanked it like nothing.

Years of KKG hype just for a far superior version with both adCoA and adCoC to get red hawk lvl treatment 🤣

His brain really broke.

 

[StocksInMihawk]

I don't think Shanks's fodder ass crew members would change the outcome between Shanks and Loki to begin with

Benny Breakfast might legit die immediately in the crossfire

There's a reason why Shanks's crew shat themselves when Mihawk appeared on their island and exclusively called for Shanks

 

[GeneralP123]

Why the fuck would it be Kong Gun? Kong Gun is not an inflated move. This was inflated just not to the same extent as KKG. Like I said it's a halfway move between KG and KKG.

And again, I don't see why that matters anyhow. G4 was not enough for Flaming Bagua. It was enough to fight base/hybrid, but he needed Bajrang at the end.

I gotta agree with ya, Supreme Kong Gun and King Kong Gun are not the same attack.

They're similar due to Luffy inflating his hand, but they're far from the exact same move.

Elephant Gatling isn't the same as Hawk Gatling either, even though they're both a barrage attack.

 

[soupongo]

Rocks killed an Admiral. That was the prize of admission to Mariejois. Loki took almost a decade, and all he had to show for it was laying waste to random pirates and getting owned by Shanks.

Jarul told him you're over your head for a reason.

CoC, and that's not the case. Jet Culverin + ACoC is still Jet Culverin.

He may have killed an admiral but
1. Oda had to pretend the entire Gorosei and Holy Knights do not exist and that they would have let him meet Imu, escape and travel freely afterwards, which is maybe the biggest plot armor in manga history
2. Oda had to let Imu let him go, when Rocks knew he couldn´t do much to him, and Imu didn´t try killing him or DRing him, when we know he absolutely can.

Loki wouldn´t be planning on going to Mariejois just to run away, he would go and be killed.

 

[Monster Zoro's Tesla Supplier]

Rocks killed an Admiral. That was the prize of admission to Mariejois. Loki took almost a decade, and all he had to show for it was laying waste to random pirates and getting owned by Shanks.

Jarul told him you're over your head for a reason.

Wtf are you going on about? I never said that was "Kong Gun", just a different move than KKG.

The issue is people thought Luffy was renaming moves because of ACoC, and that's not the case. Jet Culverin + ACoC is still Jet Culverin.

Fisher Tiger also made it to Mariejois. I don't get this argument

 

[soupongo]

I don't care about Kaido anymore.

Liking Loki more now is one thing, but you completely decided to abandon ship?

 

[moreha9685]

Liking Loki more now is one thing, but you completely decided to abandon ship?

That's what happens when it turns out that Kaido was the "We have Loki at home" meme all along.

 

[sanjikun]

You were salty because doffy got folded by KKG and Kaido tanked it like nothing.

(1) It's not King Kong Gun (2) And yeah Kaido is stronger than Doffy. Who is arguing this?

Is this what you're trying to "get" me with?

Fisher Tiger also made it to Mariejois. I don't get this argument

Bro Fisher Tiger would have been fish fillet without Shanks.

 

[Monster Zoro's Tesla Supplier]

(1) It's not King Kong Gun (2) And yeah Kaido is stronger than Doffy. Who is arguing this?

Is this what you're trying to "get" me with?



Bro Fisher Tiger would have been fish fillet without Shanks.

Point being he got to Mariejois didn't he?