Character Discussion Did Roger simping for Shakky make him lose all his aura?

[Senfret]

That's because Oda focused on the simp quest for Shakky, instead of actually building up the romances between Rocks-Eris and Roger-Rouge.

I did felt how much Rocks loved Eris and Teach because how he stopped simping for Shakky

 

[matt245]

Yeah. Getting cucked by Rayleigh was just the nail in the coffin

 

[zenox]

It makes them human, rather than a monolithic epicness piece of nothing (Aura master shit emperor Sung Jin-woo style of character), every single character in One piece is pathetic in an etymological point of view, because not having ups and downs would make them feel devoid of feelings, not even Imu is free from that, because even Imu isn't free from having loved someone. During history there has been a huge amount of people who didn't actually were fully like they went in history like, others put those attributes on them, their closer ones wouldn't mystify them as much if you ask.

dont give me that ,

There are more ways to make a character feel human than making them look like disgusting freaks over women.
imu is actually fine, but putting comedic effects and turning characters into absolute love slaves is bad.

It's not the simping that's the issue for me. It's the presentation of it.

I agree that Roger falling for Shakky is a good way to differentiate him from Luffy. The problem is that there's no way to look past this shit:

Flat on his ass with hearts in eyes, tf? This is just unsubtle and doesn't really fit the image or character of Roger that was seen so far imo esp. pre-Oden.

Which is my biggest issue with WB as well; him going heart eyes for Shakky is dumb, him acting like a massive tsundere about her fits way better to me.

(Hell it's the issue I have with even Sanji, I'd like his gag way more if it was toned down more and not ridiculous nosebleed bs)

Basically this ^

 

[matt245]

dont give me that

I've never seen a guy simp so fucking hard for a woman. That doesn't make it realistic, it just makes it fucking pathetic.

 

[NikaInParis]

Crux that is your 7 account you are on about seething about sanji in non related thread after becomming a forum wide meme, i think everyone knows who is on what You need to follow guis example

He made another one?! Good Lord, Bogard has to personally thank the dude for keeping this site afloat

 

[Johnny B. Decent]

If nothing else, it at least made him different then Luffy.

 

[DenifClock]

People wanted him to be a legendary figure, not an actual character.
I don't mind Roger being just another guy, not a god

 

[Yere93]

No

 

[moreha9685]

People wanted him to be a legendary figure, not an actual character.
I don't mind Roger being just another guy, not a god

Because he was supposed to be a legend: the first PK, the one who started an entire era of piracy, and inspired the MC.

 

[Sentinel]

Idk whats so fun in making characters simp

Japanese don't see it as simping but rather as them being perverts. That's how Muten Roshi, Jiraiya and even Sanji are written mostly. This is a common gag in most animes.

 

[Sir Yasheen]

Nah he lost his aura when he prostrated to Whitebeard begging him for Oden. At least Roger was still acting like a pirate and trying to kidnap Shakky

 

[Bad English]

GV Roger was a teenager, we need to excuse him.

 

[Loki D. Terror]

GV Roger was a teenager, we need to excuse him.

40 year old teenager

 

[Bad English]

40 year old teenager

He grew up late.

 

[sanjikun]

In OP goofiness is power.

 

[Johnny B. Decent]

Because he was supposed to be a legend: the first PK, the one who started an entire era of piracy, and inspired the MC.

Sure, but even when Luffy becomes Pirate King, overthrowes Imu and becomes even more of a success story, he's still going to be plenty goofy even still.

 

[moreha9685]

Sure, but even when Luffy becomes Pirate King, overthrowes Imu and becomes even more of a success story, he's still going to be plenty goofy even still.

Because he's Luffy.
I don't want Roger to be Luffy 2.0, but his own character, and a grown ass man at that, not a giggling retard acting like he's still 14.

 

[zenox]

Japanese don't see it as simping but rather as them being perverts. That's how Muten Roshi, Jiraiya and even Sanji are written mostly. This is a common gag in most animes.

yes, thats what i am talkin abt

 

[kekaro]

Because he's Luffy.
I don't want Roger to be Luffy 2.0, but his own character, and a grown ass man at that, not a giggling retard acting like he's still 14.

There are some luffiysm that oda introduced sure, but i woulndt say roger resembles luffy alot from what we seen
Like this god valley sequence from start to finish would not remotly happen the same with luffy

 

[Johnny B. Decent]

Because he's Luffy.
I don't want Roger to be Luffy 2.0, but his own character, and a grown ass man at that, not a giggling retard acting like he's still 14.

He's also a man stuck on a ship with nothing but men most of the time. Even putting aside how as Sentinel mentioned above, it's just a trope they like in Japan that some people here took WAY too seriously.