Questions & Mysteries Will The Holy Knights live up to the hype or be disappointing in Elbaf?

What’s more likely to Happen ?

  • Gunko & Sommers will be Hype, Killingham will Disappoint

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  • Only Killingham will live up to the hype

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#81
Shamrock is being introduced in the arc because Oda wanted to delve into Shanks´s backstory and Shamrock is an important part of that, it´s not really complicated, and he´s definitely not coming back. He also doesn´t really have a proper tie to Luffy anyway, so I don´t know why you would assume Luffy is going to face him, even Loki is technically more likely.
He literally is the twin brother of Luffy's idol lmao. You dont think THAT will ever arise in this manga as an issue for Luffy lol?

Im sorry, but no matter how strong Loki is, hes a secondary character in this story, he does not have merit over Luffy fighting an evil version of Shanks, regardless of his initial encounter with Shamrock.

Luffy was the one asking questions about Shamrock when the giants were attacked in Alrest
 
#82
Sanji isn´t going to randomly unlock COC though, he´s going to need to be against a strong opponent for it to even make remote sense. In this case, to justify Sanji getting a powerup, his opponent should clearly be above current Sanji, and I don´t think this is just because of regen.
I agree, but after Gaban's explanation I don't think it could be random.

And as far as strong opponents go, I agree. And in that case, since I have them far higher, a 1.8B pirate DRed is the oppoenet way above Sanji who I think would be needed.

The problem with Dorry and Broggy is they aren´t actual antagonists who need to be taken down in the same way. It seems way more likely Oda does some plot BS wrt that, or maybe Kidd comes back or something, or Idk, Loki. But Sommers and Killingham being actual villains makes them seem way more likely to fight the wings this arc. We can agree to disagree though.
Idk, I think Oda made a big deal out fo the DR, even making DR Xebec the big villain (de facto) of GV. Now it should be the same, unless Loki gets DRed and then he becomes the one.


They need to be actually KO’d as their DFs are causing the problems on Elbaf. And haki is shown to be the primary method of doing this.
Primary, or most direct, yes; not only.

Someone needs to stop the immortal, powerupped army of giants just as they need to stop the HK. The problem is the same.

The issue is leaving Shamrock beyond this arc just going to further bloat an already heavy endgame. He didnt exist prior to this arc and now we still have like 4 potential villains Luffy needs to face lol. Elbaf will be yet another arc that doesnt actually resolve any of them either.
Yeah, Oda tends to do this. He didn't with Doflamingo, but we know he was going to do it because he said so.

Anyway, I see quite clearly Dragon-Garling and Sabo-Shamrock as EoS matchups so I won't expect either of them to really do something until then. Maybe some skirmishes or unseen fights, but that's it.
 
#99
Oda literally made sure to focus on ice gloves than haki when it came to Kuzan. Even ulti and luffy had big lightning when clasing. Does that mean ulti has coc now?
The lightning effects are LITERALLY, EXACLY like CoC, with no difference. Sure, you can make use of the "zeez" effect copium mechanism, but it's mental asylum worthy of believe two top tiers were using basic busoshoku in a Haki mass clash, especially when one of them is know for being one of the strongest CoC haki users in verse and the other equally matching his haki lol.
 
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