[FNZ] Super Role Madness Naruto Shippuden: An Alternate Universe Mafia Game Thread [Game Ended - Mafia Win]

Stop blaming other people. The mech was explained to you and you didn't offer any counter explanation. Which means you agreed with their argument. Coming in post game to point fingers isn't it.
typical response. i am pointing out he should not been cleared because of the tailed beast.


this is more bastard.
 
Yeah agreed. Sadly it has become commonplace now that hiding activity is essential, otherwise you get people doing things like that. At least there is a counter option but yeah not a nice read to see.
It should be mandatory to hide your activity to play mafia here. What's the most terrible here is that I wasn't the one who stole the items and I was really angry to be scum read for this.
 
Game End - Mugen Tsukuyomi







@Ratchet , the new Fifth Kazekage, was lynched.


Shakuton no Pakuratchy
Alignment: Shinobi Alliance
Rank: Sannin -> Fifth Kazekage
Nation: Land of Wind
Village hidden in the Sand, Sunagakure

(Passive) [Innate - The Legendary Sannin] - You are one of the 3 Legendary Sannin of Sunagakure, each of you carrying power rivaling that of a Kage. Upon the recent death of the Fourth Kazekage: Kekkuya Kimimaro to the Akatsuki, you, alongside the other 2 Sannin, were called back to the village to discuss urgent matters and represent the village during its time of turmoil.
--- [Will of Wind] - Each night, one of you 3 will represent Sunagakure at the nightly Kage Summit, alternating between all 3. Your turn starts in Night 2, and repeats every 3 nights unless a Sannin is dead, upon which it repeats every other night. If you are the last Sannin alive you will automatically be titled the Fifth Kazekage and represent your village every night.
--- [Turmoil] - Your village is currently in chaos due to the Akatsuki's attack. No lower rank ninjas from your village will be participating in the Chunin exams this year.

(Passive - Innate - Substitute Teacher] - If after the game starts another nation requires a substitute instructor to fill in for their Chunin exams and they don't have any available, you will take that position. Works once.
--- (Night) [Taijutsu - Inspire Students] - Motivate 1 player. They can perform a double action the following cycle, provided they have enough shots for it. [2-shots]

(Passive) [Kekkei Genkai - Scorch Release] - An extremely rare and powerful Kekkei Genkai capable of mummifying victims upon extended exposure. Burns from any scorch release attack are so severe that they require 2 heals to be fully cured.
--- [Scorch Release: Three Heat Orbs] - The first 3 players that target you in the game will be burned, permanently losing 1 unexpended shot each. If they don't have an unexpended shot left, they will lose a non-innate ability instead. If they don't have a burnable ability left, they will be regular killed instead.
--- (Night) [Scorch Release: Extremely Steaming Murder] - Target 1 player to permanently burn up to 2 unexpended shots from. If your target does not have any unexpended shots left, burn to to 2 non-innate abilities from them instead. If they don't have any burnable abilities left, regular kill them. [3-shots]
--- (Night) [Scorch Release: Great Steaming Explosive Blast] -
Activate this ability to disable Three Heat Orbs passive for the night and instead fire an attack that permanently burns up to 5 unexpended shots from 1 player. If your target does not have any unexpended shots left, burn up to 5 non-innate abilities from them instead. If they don't have any burnable abilities left, regular kill them. [1-shot]


Win con (Town) - Eliminate all threats to the Shinobi World.


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With no possibility to kill the Juubi Jinchiriki in Night 11, the God Tree blooms a Rinne-Sharingan at the start of Day 12.

The Juubi Jinchuriki projects the God Tree's Rinne-Sharingan onto the moon, casting Mugen Tsukuyomi.


With that, the Akatsuki has achieved their objective and won the game.


Congratulation: @PowerLevel9000 (@Paragorn) , @Michelle, @York, @SakazOuki, @Daniel, @BoaHancocksHusband, @bittersweet, @Shuijing, @JustJuice


Shinobi Alliance
and
Team Neko

have lost the game.


The game has now concluded.
The remaining roles will be posted separately.


Instead of making a long post, I'll explain the deal with power's role and the counterplay options town had in a separate post.


Thank you everyone for playing!

Living Players [5/27]:
  1. @Fujishiro
  2. @Flower
  3. @Paragorn @PowerLevel9000
  4. @Higuma @Jan
  5. @Hayumi --- Revived Day 9
Subs [3/X]:
  1. @Ali v2
  2. @Indigo
  3. @Yo Tan Wa
Dead Players [19/27]:
  1. @bittersweet - Yotsuki Multi-Taste - Akatsuki - Lynched Day 1 (LINK)
  2. @RippedCal - The Shredded Ape - Shinobi Alliance - Sealed Night 1 (LINK)
  3. @York - Yamanaka Inork - Akatsuki - Died Night 1 (LINK)
  4. @SakazOuki - Momochi Sakabuza - Akatsuki - Lynched Night 2 (LINK)
  5. @The Orca - Hoshigaki Korca - Shinobi Alliance - Sealed Day 3 (LINK)
  6. @JustJuice - Killer C - Akatsuki - Lynched Day 3 (LINK)
  7. @Daniel - Damn Daniel Ninja Version - Akatsuki - Lynched Day 4 (LINK)
  8. @Michelle - Hatake Michashi - Akatsuki - Lynched Night 4 (LINK)
  9. @Alexis2282AE - Uchiha Byakuya - Shinobi Alliance - Sealed Night 4 (LINK)
  10. @Ultra @Neeko - Urzo the Bearmander - Shinobi Alliance - Died Night 4 (LINK)
  11. @BoaHancocksHusband - Mitarashi McBoa-Arm - Akatsuki - Lynched Day 5 (LINK)
  12. @Yoho - Hyuuga Yohabi - Shinobi Alliance - Lynch Day 6 (LINK)
  13. @GalaxyLevelShanks - The Legendary Galaxy Level Baa! - Team Neko - Sealed Day 7 (LINK)
  14. @Random Asshole - Uchiha SauceQue - Shinobi Alliance - Lynched Day 7 (LINK)
  15. @Charlie - Chikamatsu Chuck E. Cheese - Shinobi Alliance - Died Night 7 (LINK)
  16. @Polar Bear - Kazahana Polar Express - Shinobi Alliance - Lynched Day 8 (LINK) --- Revived Day 9 --- Died again Night 9 (LINK)
  17. @Cadis Etrama Di Urek - Nono Di Yakushi - Shinobi Alliance - Sealed Night 8 (LINK)
  18. @Hayumi - Terumei Hayumei - Shinobi Alliance - Died Night 8 (LINK) --- Revived Day 9
  19. @Shuijing - Kousei Endou - Akatsuki - Lynched Day 9 (LINK)
  20. @Alwaysmind - Akimichi Cho-Mind - Shinobi Alliance - Died Night 9 (LINK)
  21. @Lord Melkor - Ironland Shikasand Guy - Shinobi Alliance - Lynched Day 10 (LINK)
  22. @Naomi - Hoshigaki Naomiato - Shinobi Alliance - Died Night 10 (LINK)
  23. @Ratchet - Shakuton no Pakuratchy - Shinobi Alliance - Lynched Day 11
Excellent game sir
:Tou_Cheers:
 

Ratchet

The End and the Beginning
typical response. i am pointing out he should not been cleared because of the tailed beast.


this is more bastard.
I mean yes he shouldn't have been, but saying it was "other people" removes the agency from you for believing it. I believed the mech which is why I went past it. Whether it was bastard or not is another matter.
 

Ratchet

The End and the Beginning
It should be mandatory to hide your activity to play mafia here. What's the most terrible here is that I wasn't the one who stole the items and I was really angry to be scum read for this.
I can't make it mandatory because it's personal choice, and I'm reluctant to rule against angleshooting because it sets a precedent for moderation that I'm not really keen on. Ultimately the games here are supposed to be more lax than what you see on something like MU. But yeah it's unfortunate and we can only hope that people don't go for cheesy reads like that.
 
I mean yes he shouldn't have been, but saying it was "other people" removes the agency from you for believing it. I believed the mech which is why I went past it. Whether it was bastard or not is another matter.
nah i am criticizing not blaming fully. because power claim was bastard theme with the tails.

the whole point of town was to save the tailed beast, and he claimed it, there was nothing to counter it from other people mech results.
 
The deal with power's role:

first, to establish that there are no contradictions/bastard elements regarding mafia having a living jinchuriki:
  • it was never stated by me that jinchurikis have to be town aligned. the game mechanics say that certain roles have bijuu inside of them. a strong supporting argument to this is that galaxy was a flipped indie jinchuriki.
  • in the revealed factional abilities and mafia wincon it is only stated that mafia needs to ultimately seal all 9 bijuu, not that they all need to be town.
  • neeko's passive only reveals that the akatsuki have captured and sealed 2 bijuu before the game started. it does not root out that one of the akatsuki is a living jinchuriki that isn't captured or sealed yet.

fun fact: mafia actually were never told what number tailed beast was the second bijuu that they had captured before the game starts (the 6-tailed bijuu). they'd have to take a wild shot at guessing it or potentially use rolecop TMI to determine which bijuu is claimable if they want to fake claim it later. mafia was a team of 9 so each of them could essentially claim a bijuu before getting lynched to at least gain some reactions or even stall their lynch if they happen to claim being the 6-tailed bijuu and sell it well.

next, here are some subtle clues that helps town arrive at finding that one of the mafia can be a bijuu:
  • shuijin's hidden passive, while redacted, subtly opens possibilities to speculate that the akatsuki leader is a jinchuriki or associated with bijuu in some form given the unredacted wording
  • the akatsuki leader dies if sealed normally or via shuijin's hidden ability, but survives if partial sealed. what happens if he partially sealed is that the name of his bijuu is revealed: "poison beetle" which subtly hints at him being the unknown poisoner.
  • the fact that poisons have stopped to happen after power was partial sealed subtly points toward him possibly being the poisoner who lost his poison powers after being sealed.
  • mechanic wise town knew the last scum had a poison healing ability to heal RA, and power claimed such a healing ability. it was his best claimable ability so he's forced into it. of all the flipped mafia roles not a single one had a poison heal. only power does. boa can heal wound/burns, not poisons. basically the mafia poison healer was not flipped and town knew mafia must have had atleast one, which points more fingers to power.
  • you were told at the end of night 1's Kage summit that the Akatsuki leader feels very confident in declaring war against all nations almost like he had a "secret weapon". this was actually a very subtle hint. this secret weapon was the strong jinchuriki claim. this one is too subtle tho and just having fun with the flavor, i dont expect many to pay much attention to it. i only recall charlie did.
  • during the night where power got partial sealed, power chose to protect shanks, not himself like he said he wud do in thread. this is what caused the contradiction in thread and showed that one of the kages is lying. since AM and hayumi flipped town and claimed not responsible for it, the only kage left that could have done it was power.
  • town has to protect the bijuu from being sealed. this includes protecting power stops his bijuu from being sealed and slows the mafia wincon. you aren't being deceived. protecting a jinchuriki, regardless of their alignment, slows mafia's wincon. It's why power was adamant about not being protected in the night he partial sealed himself. this game was mostly about killing mafia before they achieve their wincon. it doesn't matter how many townies die. protecting the bijuu was a mean to delay mafia's wincon, not necessarily save townies.
  • during night 1 it appears that daniel got promoted twice to become jonin and lots players where speculating that cake might have somehow found a way to talk to his team in order to boost daniel. this was true, and the way to do that by design was the land of lightning higher-ups chat where cake gets to talk to paragorn/power, who told him to boost daniel in the chat.

i get that nothing above is a "concrete evidence" against him, and thats intentional because its made to be a strong claim, but the above is enough to get the gears turning and get town to think beyond the faulty "jinchuriki = town locked" idea

thats part of "solving the mystery" so to speak. i don't agree that it was bastard because it was never explicitly stated by the host that all jinchuriki are town, and galaxy was a living proof of that not being the case. i think there were sufficient enough clues to solve this, and many players got close to doing so.

Living Players [5/27]:
  1. @Fujishiro
  2. @Flower
  3. @Paragorn @PowerLevel9000
  4. @Higuma @Jan
  5. @Hayumi --- Revived Day 9
Subs [3/X]:
  1. @Ali v2
  2. @Indigo
  3. @Yo Tan Wa
Dead Players [19/27]:
  1. @bittersweet - Yotsuki Multi-Taste - Akatsuki - Lynched Day 1 (LINK)
  2. @RippedCal - The Shredded Ape - Shinobi Alliance - Sealed Night 1 (LINK)
  3. @York - Yamanaka Inork - Akatsuki - Died Night 1 (LINK)
  4. @SakazOuki - Momochi Sakabuza - Akatsuki - Lynched Night 2 (LINK)
  5. @The Orca - Hoshigaki Korca - Shinobi Alliance - Sealed Day 3 (LINK)
  6. @JustJuice - Killer C - Akatsuki - Lynched Day 3 (LINK)
  7. @Daniel - Damn Daniel Ninja Version - Akatsuki - Lynched Day 4 (LINK)
  8. @Michelle - Hatake Michashi - Akatsuki - Lynched Night 4 (LINK)
  9. @Alexis2282AE - Uchiha Byakuya - Shinobi Alliance - Sealed Night 4 (LINK)
  10. @Ultra @Neeko - Urzo the Bearmander - Shinobi Alliance - Died Night 4 (LINK)
  11. @BoaHancocksHusband - Mitarashi McBoa-Arm - Akatsuki - Lynched Day 5 (LINK)
  12. @Yoho - Hyuuga Yohabi - Shinobi Alliance - Lynch Day 6 (LINK)
  13. @GalaxyLevelShanks - The Legendary Galaxy Level Baa! - Team Neko - Sealed Day 7 (LINK)
  14. @Random Asshole - Uchiha SauceQue - Shinobi Alliance - Lynched Day 7 (LINK)
  15. @Charlie - Chikamatsu Chuck E. Cheese - Shinobi Alliance - Died Night 7 (LINK)
  16. @Polar Bear - Kazahana Polar Express - Shinobi Alliance - Lynched Day 8 (LINK) --- Revived Day 9 --- Died again Night 9 (LINK)
  17. @Cadis Etrama Di Urek - Nono Di Yakushi - Shinobi Alliance - Sealed Night 8 (LINK)
  18. @Hayumi - Terumei Hayumei - Shinobi Alliance - Died Night 8 (LINK) --- Revived Day 9
  19. @Shuijing - Kousei Endou - Akatsuki - Lynched Day 9 (LINK)
  20. @Alwaysmind - Akimichi Cho-Mind - Shinobi Alliance - Died Night 9 (LINK)
  21. @Lord Melkor - Ironland Shikasand Guy - Shinobi Alliance - Lynched Day 10 (LINK)
  22. @Naomi - Hoshigaki Naomiato - Shinobi Alliance - Died Night 10 (LINK)
  23. @Ratchet - Shakuton no Pakuratchy - Shinobi Alliance - Lynched Day 11
 
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