Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1174 Spoilers Discussion

[Shiroyru]

The forest god imo is the devil fruit tree, the demons it sent forth are the devil fruits.

The earth god is imo the devil, it was oppressing humanity, Nika freed them from oppression and slavery.

Imu is more than likely the earth gods incarnation just like Luffy and JB are Nikas incarnations.

Has an original DF tree ever been mentioned or alluded to in the story?

 

[Paperchampion23]

I think it’ll just be called Elbaf the God of War

Im 50/50, only because I think Elbaf was just the either first king of Elbaf thousands of years ago or he was the king 800 years ago.

The only reason why I say this is Imu called Elbaf D. which seems to suggest he was part of the faction tied to Joyboy, or was the originator of it.

 

[Shiroyru]

My only doubt about this is Imu didnt know what it was when he defeated Harald but I guess hes actually controlling Gunko this time and can see through her. So we'll see.

Imu can’t see through regular HKs. All he knew is that something overwhelmingly powerful beat Harald

 

[Sir Yasheen]

Yeah and no, the MC is obviously going to be the strongest but the fact Luffy/Loki reunion is apparently part of the Haley prophecy is another evidence that Loki is endgame relevant and nost just your generic arc ally. Even counting the likes of BB and Imu, I'd be surprised if he's not top 5 EOS

I think we need to see how this arc goes. I genuinely doubt Odas going to leave Elbaf with Loki looking stronger than Luffy

 

[Paperchampion23]

Imu can’t see through regular HKs. All he knew is that something overwhelmingly powerful beat Harald

Yes thats what Im saying. We'll see

 

[Fujishiro]

Has an original DF tree ever been mentioned or alluded to in the story?

Yes its been hinted at, basically what I think happened is that the first world was highly advanced technologically and through science created magic.

The remnants of their civilization were found the the tree generated devil fruits.

 

[MonochromeYoru]

Yeah and no, the MC is obviously going to be the strongest but the fact Luffy/Loki reunion is apparently part of the Haley prophecy is another evidence that Loki is endgame relevant and nost just your generic arc ally. Even counting the likes of BB and Imu, I'd be surprised if he's not top 5 EOS

he's most likely the second sovereign the sea kings mentioned

 

[sanjikun]

Idk why we keep having this convo every 2 weeks. Shanks has better Haki. The giants compared JB Haki to Shanks. Kaido said DFs alone won't make you King.

Shanks is a Haki master. Loki is a DF merchant.

 

[CoC: Color of Clowns]

when did mohawk do anything?

mohawk is even more fraud than kaido is lmao

Vista wanted to go to Wano, but Whitebeard had to stop him because he knew that Vista and Kaido fighting seriously would destroy the entire country

 

[Fujishiro]

Yeah and no, the MC is obviously going to be the strongest but the fact Luffy/Loki reunion is apparently part of the Haley prophecy is another evidence that Loki is endgame relevant and nost just your generic arc ally. Even counting the likes of BB and Imu, I'd be surprised if he's not top 5 EOS

Another issue is right now Gunkimu is just a fragment of Imus power, and Brook was introduced as a counter to the possession. Gunkimu will be nerfed in this fight.

 

[Kurozumi Wiwi]

I didnt say powercliffed. Just that Loki is obviously not the strongest and wont be.

At very least this should be the end of Loki joining the crew (that some use as evidence about how him getting powercreeped by Zoro and Sanji), he clearly got an unique role in the story.

 

[MonochromeYoru]

Has an original DF tree ever been mentioned or alluded to in the story?

not in current manga

but in the first version of op where garp was a pirate, the gum gum df was from the gum gum tree

 

[Monster Zoro's Tesla Supplier]

lol what is your first sig image? its funny since i need to insert Captcha code to see it

The one in the blue link or the sonic x shadow gens art?

 

[sanjikun]

At very least this should be the end of Loki joining the crew (that some use as evidence about how him getting powercreeped by Zoro and Shanks), he clearly got an unique role in the story.

Zoro will surpass Shanks.

 

[Mr. Reloaded]

The strongest is joining the Straw Hats? Chicken Wings upscale

 

[Kurozumi Wiwi]

he's most likely the second sovereign the sea kings mentioned

I think chronologically it is a a bit iffy but after Nika Oda can asspull/retcon anything lol

 

[Sir Yasheen]

he's most likely the second sovereign the sea kings mentioned

Probably. The Seakings said they were taking the Noah to a clan who could fix it, wouldn’t be shocked if that’s Galleila

 

[GrandmasterChef Zonji]

he's most likely the second sovereign the sea kings mentioned

I think nah, Our Sovereign is refering to Shirahoshi,
The Other Sovereigns is Luffy.

 

[Fujishiro]

At very least this should be the end of Loki joining the crew (that some use as evidence about how him getting powercreeped by Zoro and Shanks), he clearly got an unique role in the story.

He will be an ally but not a crew member imo.

 

[Shiroyru]

@Paperchampion23 Also if it is just the Nidhogg fruit, idk why Loki’s fruit is getting gassed up so much by the story. Sure Nidhogg is powerful, but there’s plenty of other very powerful real world mythical creatures featured as Mythical Zoans that didn’t get hyped up even as fraction as much as Loki’s, like the Seiryu for example. I mean, Sengoku can transform into the fucking Buddha, which seems like it would be an even more impressive power in a Japanese manga than being able to transform into Nidhogg