Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1174 Spoilers Discussion

Which devil fruit is more impressive?


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I love shitting on odas power scaling as much as the next guy but cmon, oda isn’t going to have Loki power cliff Roger and then have Luffy team up with him while Luffy is still at best equal to an admiral. Cmon now. When has Luffy ever allied with someone that much stronger than him
That’s actually only due to the time limit, g5 is busted and believably above Roger tbh. Overpowered Kaido’s strongest attack, and triviliazed shit like Destroyer Bagua. Destroyer Bagua alone would probably do massive damage to Roger or WB if it ever connects lol.
 

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Tbh every single strong character was horrible displayed at god valley. WB, Roger, Garp, Rocks, Kaido etc. Everyone was disappointing. Oda can draw really beautiful fights If He wants to do and has the time for it. But God Valley was a simp show
Garp made 3 yonko run from him, idk how that's disappointing
 
Again, Oda went out of his way here to constantly have Luffy be looked at as the small time in comparison here.

And im talking about Arc allies who join Luffy to fight against an arc antagonist not the vague alliances made in Impel Down and Marineford where defeating an enemy wasn’t even on the table.

Because we all know whoever is the final villain of Elbaf, the last hit is going to Luffy. So unless this villain is going to defeat someone magnitudes stronger just to get beat by Luffy, it’s an absolutely ridiculous concept
In OP there have been similar situations: ID, MF, even EH in some way.

Loki might have a big fight to Imu, but Luffy is going to be the one who defeats it in the end because, idk, Loki's wounds reopen. We cannot say.
 
That’s actually only due to the time limit, g5 is busted and believably above Roger tbh. Overpowered Kaido’s strongest attack, and triviliazed shit like Destroyer Bagua. Destroyer Bagua alone would probably do massive damage to Roger or WB if it ever connects lol.
I don’t think G5 is above Roger… shit didn’t even do serious damage to Kizaru after an extended round.
 
I love shitting on odas power scaling as much as the next guy but cmon, oda isn’t going to have Loki power cliff Roger and then have Luffy team up with him while Luffy is still at best equal to an admiral. Cmon now. When has Luffy ever allied with someone that much stronger than him
This is just a fallacy. When? Elbaf arc, it´s happening currently. We just saw a flashback where Loki achieved the things that Imu was shocked by(no other character shocked him this way), and Gaban considered impossible, after sailing with the strongest pirates and other characters for years, with himself being shown as incredibly powerful. We are in the end game, and Loki is one of the most important characters of the end game, with the fruit that Rocks wanted, the hammer that has been guarding it, untamed by any giant, including Harald, and monstrous genetics that Imu wants to tame(and this extends to Haki as well btw, Loki´s father is one of the strongest haki users in the manga). He´s clearly stronger than Luffy.
 
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