Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1174 Spoilers Discussion

Which devil fruit is more impressive?


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I not doing all my scaling off 1 point .
I counting everything luffy has done in G5 and his haki to have him at that level.
He only issue is his stamina limit which is why i won't say he 100% there but in G5 he is to that level easy.
This arc will also 100% make sure of that even if it was not the case before.
luffys feats were against Kaido who cant compare to Loki, Luffy needs feats against stronger People first not only stamina
 
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So what do you think of Loki´s fruit being Nidhogg and not Fenrir? Ngl, I´m a bit disappointed, Fenrir has a lot more details around him, and as the symbolism of him being chained up, destined to kill Odin, is just too interesting imo. Nidhogg to my understanding is a lot more vague? Like, he´s involved in Ragnarok and chews on the big tree, I guess?

Either way, I kind of wish we just had a normal norse themed arc with Loki having a crew with other zoans related to norse and maybe other European mythologies. Though I guess we have Shamrock with the Cerberus fruit, maybe he and the other figarlands could have Greek mythology related fruits? Idk, but it would be a good way to separate them from the rest of the Gorosei.
Well, I wanted the Fenrir too at the beginning, but at this point the Nidhogg was a long time coming:

- the claw shaped mark;
- Loki being chained to the base of Yggdrasil/Adam was also a reference to Nidhogg;
- Ratatoskir/Ragnir was obv. a reference to Niddhogg;
- Nidhogg too has a connection with Ragnarok;
- in OP there was the "lightning Dragon" thing.

Fenrir had a lot too, but ultimately It was Nidhogg.

Now, I was fed up with dragons too, but I wanted to see a cool western dragon zoan (and not the lame - imho - eastern one), so I am ok.

I hope the Fenrir comes up too though. Maybe for Hajurind? There is also the Eagle, maybe.

I like the idea of Figarlands having western creatures.
 
Why ? Because he's too strong ? Then what is even the point of this arc if Imu just gets sent back to Mariejoie and that’s it ?
It’d be the second time since the void century imu failed to subjugate a nation and the reincarnation of the serpent on the mural and the sun god did it.Thats a pretty big thing I’m pretty sure Loki defeating imu would realease a lot of trauma he’s had since imu killed his father and his idol it would also Paint him as the hero of this arc and getting the love he’s deserved.

Loki getting domid would be very stupid writing wise and symbolically/themeatically like it make no sense any way you look at it lol.
 
Well, I wanted the Fenrir too at the beginning, but at this point the Nidhogg was a long time coming:

- the claw shaped mark;
- Loki being chained to the base of Yggdrasil/Adam was also a reference to Nidhogg;
- Ratatoskir/Ragnir was obv. a reference to Niddhogg;
- Nidhogg too has a connection with Ragnarok;
- in OP there was the "lightning Dragon" thing.

Fenrir had a lot too, but ultimately It was Nidhogg.

Now, I was fed up with dragons too, but I wanted to see a cool western dragon zoan (and not the lame - imho - eastern one), so I am ok.

I hope the Fenrir comes up too though. Maybe for Hajurind? There is also the Eagle, maybe.

I like the idea of Figarlands having western creatures.
Tbh, while I do appreciate that he ended up being so strong...... It does seem like we´re approaching Mary Sue status for Loki. He pretty much did nothing wrong, is like Kaido but has prophecy BS on his side too......

I guess he´s still a pretty fun character to read though, but as a day 1 Loki enjoyer, this is def not how I would have thought his character would end up.
We actually have a proper villain to beat?

Gunko can't carry this arc, Imu or not.
I have horrible news for you about who´s going to be the main or at worst second main antagonist for the rest of the manga then....
 
We actually have a proper villain to beat?

Gunko can't carry this arc, Imu or not.
I think it would be cool narratively purely because it would hopefully lead to a moment between Hajrudin and Loki where Loki fights against the DR as to not kill Hajrudin (more or less connecting to Haralds final words)
It’s always these two saying the dumbest thing in the forum threads

dumb 1 and dumb 2 dumb and dumber
 
Oda might, and likely will, show it sometime, but has completely lost relevance and more so: importance.

We had multiple characters who should have skysplit and didn't: from Harald and Xebec (twice) to Roger and WB. And others who didn't clash but according to the logic, Oda should have made them clash to show they were on that level (Garp, Oden).

As of now Xebec, Harald, Garp, Oden have never skysplit and never will. And Lolden aside, every one of them was clearly well beyond the level to do so and had the chance to be showed doing it.
And even Roger never really split the sky clearly, since even during his clash witn WB the Sky wasn't in fact showed split in two.

Simply, It's not at all a realiable benchmark anymore. Oda might show It or not, but one can be well beyond the level required to do so and still never been showed splitting the sky.
It still a reliable benchmark if anything Oda just add another aspect .
Like no touching clashing which what WB and Roger did that shake the whole island .
So even with them not doing a normal sky split they do something just as advance that even had Oden saying WTF.
Sure some character not do it but IMO that not take away the importance of it
 
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