How many Ls is Luffy gonna suffer before finally taking down Domi Reversi God of War Woki?


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@soupongo Idk why people still use Part 1 statements to downplay Kisame when his fight with Bee very clearly proves Kishimoto retconned him to be much stronger. Jiraiya and Orochimaru are relative to 4 Tails Naruto. Kisame was beating V2 Bee, who is much stronger than 4T Naruto
 
Law is strong, but he should logically be a bit under Blackbeards right hand atm, especially given the fact that they're supposedly threatening Mariejois so much that Imu wants the giants(Unless it's the RA, but the BBP are more likely imo)
There’s basically a 0% chance that the BBPs are currently attacking Mariejois
 
@soupongo Idk why people still use Part 1 statements to downplay Kisame when his fight with Bee very clearly proves Kishimoto retconned him to be much stronger. Jiraiya and Orochimaru are relative to 4 Tails Naruto. Kisame was beating V2 Bee, who is much stronger than 4T Naruto
I don't think Kisame was retconned necessarily. He remains like, tiers below Itachi, and keeps up that rivalry with Gai. Let's not forget that matchups play a role. Samehada can absorb chakra against Killer B, who replies on tailed beasts and is constantly... emiting it? Idk what to call it

Orochimaru was nerfed against 4 tails Naruto lol. Plus, did he even really lose or get overpowered? He was mostly messing around, until he realized it was too much of a threat to be a joke. It doesn't mean he'd lose necessarily.
 
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