Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1175 Spoilers Discussion

[soupongo]

If you can't spot the difference in portrayal of Marco, Jozu, Jack, Cracker, etc. at the start of arcs vs. the end of arcs, then I can't help you.


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Yeah, nothing changed for any of them lmao. The portrayal is exactly the same, you're just coping.

My arguments on Luffy > Loki are based on bounties

Begining of the arc info, already pretty much debunked since the government didn't really know Loki had his fruit

Shanks

Begining of the arc info, introduced with plenty of other things about Loki that we have seen been wrong. And Luffy isn't Shanks, so meaningless.

Gunko.

Begining of the arc scene, meant to highlight Gunko's DF power when Loki was in literal seastone chains, portrayed as the biggest nerf in the manga possible,reducing Ace to someone fodder can kill

 

[Monster Zoro's Tesla Supplier]

Usopp vs Killingham is pretty much ZKK lvl take

It actually makes sense based off the potential matchups
If Zoro and Sanji fight Dorry and Brogy, Usopp fighting Killingham isn't that crazy then

 

[soupongo]

Usopp vs Killingham is pretty much ZKK lvl take

It's worse than ZKK.

Anyone who was pushing it shouldn't be taken seriously about OP opinions anymore.

Oda has been showing this arc that no SHP but Luffy can fight Imu, and no one can fights Knights of God but Zoro and maybe Sanji. Anything else is just copium for bad writing. With Regen and immunities, Oda screwed over most of the cast and their potential to really win fights.

 

[Monster Zoro's Tesla Supplier]

It's worse than ZKK.

Anyone who was pushing it shouldn't be taken seriously about OP opinions anymore.

Oda has been showing this arc that no SHP but Luffy can fight Imu, and no one can fights Knights of God but Zoro and maybe Sanji. Anything else is just copium for bad writing. With Regen and immunities, Oda screwed over most of the cast and their potential to really win fights.

They BFRed Mars in Egghead.
And this doesn't even make sense. Who stops the Domi Giants then? They also have regen.

 

[Sir Yasheen]

It's worse than ZKK.

Anyone who was pushing it shouldn't be taken seriously about OP opinions anymore.

Oda has been showing this arc that no SHP but Luffy can fight Imu, and no one can fights Knights of God but Zoro and maybe Sanji. Anything else is just copium for bad writing. With Regen and immunities, Oda screwed over most of the cast and their potential to really win fights.

99% of modern OP is bad writing. Besides the DR devils are immortal too so what about them

 

[Shiroyru]

It actually makes sense based off the potential matchups
If Zoro and Sanji fight Dorry and Brogy, Usopp fighting Killingham isn't that crazy then

Unfortunately, Usopp getting a character arc with the 2 guys that are the sole reason he even wanted to go to Elbaf makes even more sense

 

[Monster Zoro's Tesla Supplier]

Unfortunately, Usopp getting a character arc with the 2 guys that are the sole reason he even wanted to go to Elbaf makes even more sense

True! And he'll defeat them by....

 

[soupongo]

99% of modern OP is bad writing. Besides the DR devils are immortal too so what about them

The SHP can't do anything but Luffy, Loki and Zoro, so I have no idea.

Either they get help from an ally who arrives to Elbaf as a plot device. or someone steps up in the middle of their fight, maybe Loki gets split up from fighting Imu with Gunkimu like Law in Dressrosa, or maybe Gaban and Zoro figure it out.

But Oda isn't going to do anything for most of the SHP. Not even at EOS.

 

[ZenZu]

I still don't get how that irrelevant cheerleader still has fans @ZenZu

Because he's not a chicken wing tbh. He's like a Zoro in alternate universe where he's allowed to take on actual important characters and not reserved to chicken wing duties.

 

[Sir Yasheen]

The SHP can't do anything but Luffy, Loki and Zoro, so I have no idea.

Either they get help from an ally who arrives to Elbaf as a plot device. or someone steps up in the middle of their fight, maybe Loki gets split up from fighting Imu with Gunkimu like Law in Dressrosa, or maybe Gaban and Zoro figure it out.

But Oda isn't going to do anything for most of the SHP. Not even at EOS.

Usopp will get something he doesn’t “deserve” this arc. He’s the closest thing Luffy has to a third commander after all

 

[Shiroyru]

True! And he'll defeat them by....

Again, idk why you keep using this argument as if Killingham also isn’t way out of Usopp’s league. Even if Domi Dorry and Brogy > Killingham, it’s like an ant (Usopp) fighting an elephant (DR Dorry and Brogy), versus an ant fighting a bear (Killingham). Either way, he’d get effortlessly crushed in a normal fight.

At least with the giants, Oda can go for an “I know you’re in there somewhere!” angle

 

[Monster Zoro's Tesla Supplier]

He’s the closest thing Luffy has to a third commander after all

Did Jinbe die off screen or something?

 

[Sir Yasheen]

Did Jinbe die off screen or something?

May as well have. Dudes been ass since he joined the crew.

 

[soupongo]

Usopp will get something he doesn’t “deserve” this arc. He’s the closest thing Luffy has to a third commander after all

Nah, Oda had Usopp and the others getting neg diffed by Gunko. There's no buildup for him to surpass Jinbei in this arc, and even that won't really help him beat a GK through tactics or what not. The DR giants is even worse, since they're abnormally strong, capable of one shotting Usopp easy

 

[Monster Zoro's Tesla Supplier]

Again, idk why you keep using this argument as if Killingham also isn’t way out of Usopp’s league. Even if Domi Dorry and Brogy > Killingham, it’s like an ant (Usopp) fighting an elephant (DR Dorry and Brogy), versus an ant fighting a bear (Killingham). Either way, he’d get effortlessly crushed in a normal fight.

At least with the giants, Oda can go for an “I know you’re in there somewhere!” angle

Xebec saw his wife and baby and still couldn't bring himself to snap out of the possession. Usopp, who they met once, isn't going to Talk no Jutsu the DR Giants LMAO

 

[Monster Zoro's Tesla Supplier]

@AverageBuggyEnjoyer what's the context behind the "it doesn't matter" memes

 

[Sir Yasheen]

Nah, Oda had Usopp and the others getting neg diffed by Gunko. There's no buildup for him to surpass Jinbei in this arc, and even that won't really help him beat a GK through tactics or what not. The DR giants is even worse, since they're abnormally strong, capable of one shotting Usopp easy

It’s not about surpassing. I don’t think anyone would classify Usopp as “surpassing” Franky back in Thriller Bark when he beat Perona.

Plus Gunkos a stronger fighter than Killingham anyways.

 

[Shiroyru]

Xebec saw his wife and baby and still couldn't bring himself to snap out of the possession. Usopp, who they met once, isn't going to Talk no Jutsu the DR Giants LMAO

Well they’re gonna break free of it somehow.

 

[John Akainu]

He’s the closest thing Luffy has to a third commander after all

This is even worse than your "Crocodille is Prime Ray lvl" take. Even Franky is more of a YC3 than Usopp

 

[Shiroyru]

It’s not about surpassing. I don’t think anyone would classify Usopp as “surpassing” Franky back in Thriller Bark when he beat Perona.

Plus Gunkos a stronger fighter than Killingham anyways.

Unlike Perona, Killingham isn’t a gag character though