General & Others Has Sanji been more relevant than Zoro Post Timeskip?
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Character wise more, fight wise less which is intressting because pre-ts i would say it looked both better for zoro
Like its hard to cope that oda is on record for saying he couldnt fit zoros family tree, motivations, characterplot nor resolution in to wano while drawing countless chapter of germa sibling chapters
definition of irrelevant in the eyes of mangaka from a plot/characters perspective
Like its hard to cope that oda is on record for saying he couldnt fit zoros family tree, motivations, characterplot nor resolution in to wano while drawing countless chapter of germa sibling chapters
definition of irrelevant in the eyes of mangaka from a plot/characters perspective
I wish that he had spent some time on his lineage and Wano connections, but Wano was already overlong and stuffed enough as it is.
The Germa stuff was directly related to the plot of the Whole Cake arc, while Zoro’s lineage has zero effect on the Wano arc.
I think you’re comparing apples to oranges here.
The Germa stuff was directly related to the plot of the Whole Cake arc, while Zoro’s lineage has zero effect on the Wano arc.
I think you’re comparing apples to oranges here.
No you have a either a fundemental misunderstanding of what i am saying or coping
Stuff like 4 chapters of Ice oni bullets are not plot relevant and contained resolution that lead to no where, as in, filler, thats why the fandom calls those filler chapter, for example. We got that but not what i listed
There is no way to argue this was relevant to include but not
Like i said, by definition zoro as a character in odas eyes is irrelvant, there is no coping about that you can cope about fantasy power levels but not what is drawn on ink.
Forgot Sanji post ts zoro would lose to Nami in a relevancy analysis but i need to re-read for that post-ts as its actually somewhat of a competetion, this one is not a question
Stuff like 4 chapters of Ice oni bullets are not plot relevant and contained resolution that lead to no where, as in, filler, thats why the fandom calls those filler chapter, for example. We got that but not what i listed
There is no way to argue this was relevant to include but not
Like i said, by definition zoro as a character in odas eyes is irrelvant, there is no coping about that you can cope about fantasy power levels but not what is drawn on ink.
Forgot Sanji post ts zoro would lose to Nami in a relevancy analysis but i need to re-read for that post-ts as its actually somewhat of a competetion, this one is not a question
I don’t think he’s irrelevant to Oda, I think Oda is just being true to the characters. Sanji is an emotional character who has a lot of unresolved shit from his toxic family. While Zoro is a very stoic character, and his lineage would have little to no impact on him or his state of mind. I genuinely don’t think he’d really care.
The ice oni bullets wasn’t filler. It let chopper do something, informed us of Queens personality, and it dealt with Apoo. From what I’ve seen of the fandom on here it just loves to bitch and moan, so they way it looks at things has no relevance to me.
With the exception of whole cake island, Zoro has been critical to the success of the Straw Hats. With the exception of Luffy, I don’t think any other crew member has been consistently critical to their victories. They all play a part yeah, but not all those parts were required for their success. That wouldn’t be true if Zoro was irrelevant.
The ice oni bullets wasn’t filler. It let chopper do something, informed us of Queens personality, and it dealt with Apoo. From what I’ve seen of the fandom on here it just loves to bitch and moan, so they way it looks at things has no relevance to me.
With the exception of whole cake island, Zoro has been critical to the success of the Straw Hats. With the exception of Luffy, I don’t think any other crew member has been consistently critical to their victories. They all play a part yeah, but not all those parts were required for their success. That wouldn’t be true if Zoro was irrelevant.
thats is wrong because zoro was characterwise more relevant pre-ts, by alot too i would argue, so that debunks that. And giga cope at ice oni bullets werent filler and there was not time to draw what oda demeeed important but couldnt
No disprespect but my mind cant be changed on this its one of the most blatant examples i ever seen in manga alongside with stuff in Bleach o JJK
No disprespect but my mind cant be changed on this its one of the most blatant examples i ever seen in manga alongside with stuff in Bleach o JJK
It wouldn’t change him as a character, but it would impact the story. Sanji being a vinsmoke didn’t change him as a character, but it impacted the story and added depth and context to the character.
That’s what people are talking about. Oda ignoring Zoros heritage and having it not impact the arc at all shows how little Oda actually writes Zoros character.
That’s what people are talking about. Oda ignoring Zoros heritage and having it not impact the arc at all shows how little Oda actually writes Zoros character.
