Powers & Abilities Debunking Literally Every Argument Against Ryokugyu’s Black Blade UPDATE: Remembering The Fallen

[Shiroyru]

This argument in the big 26 is crazy

How is GB even supposed to use his Kokuto in his signature broccoli form?

 

[Crush]

Why would a Forest Logia carry a wooden blade, when he can spawn his element any time. You don't see Kuzan and Kizaru carrying an ice/light blade on their hip either. And why would that wooden blade be black with a white hamon.

People are coping too much. Lol.

All logia admirals so far have used a blade of their element.

 

[Shiroyru]

He's always been interested in swords though, and while not a sword fanatic like Tashigi he has always recognized quality:

But one among many: Logue Town (obviously), TB, EH.

That was the Nidai Kitetsu, which strongly remembers Zoro’s Sandai Kitetsu. I’m sure Zoro can tell just by loooking at a blade that it’s high quality, but he wouldn’t know its exact grade.

 

[soupongo]

How is GB even supposed to use his Kokuto in his signature broccoli form?

Bro is asking so many questions he´s answering his previous ones.

GB hasn´t used it because it doesn´t suit the form we´ve seen him use. That doesn´t mean he can´t use it lmfao.

 

[Elder Lee Hung]

Bro is asking so many questions he´s answering his previous ones.

GB hasn´t used it because it doesn´t suit the form we´ve seen him use. That doesn´t mean he can´t use it lmfao.

He also hasn’t asked one question that I didn’t answer in the OP lol

Imagine trying to restart this debate in 2026

 

[Dragon777]

That was the Nidai Kitetsu, which strongly remembers Zoro’s Sandai Kitetsu. I’m sure Zoro can tell just by loooking at a blade that it’s high quality, but he wouldn’t know its exact grade.

The point wasn't that Zoro didn't scream Saijo though: was that Zoro didn't even say anything at all looking at Fujitora's sword. And so the argument was that if it was of high quality, Zoro would have said something as he has done in the past.

 

[Dragon777]

He also hasn’t asked one question that I didn’t answer in the OP lol

Imagine trying to restart this debate in 2026

The funny thing is that back then only a handful of us were sure about it and majority of the fandom was just convinced it was an error/misunderstanding of some kind lol.

 

[comrade]

All logia admirals so far have used a blade of their element.

Used by spawning them from thin air. Not carrying them as an object on their hip passively.

 

[Crush]

Used by spawning them from thin air. Not carrying them as an object on their hip passively.

Are you actually familiar with the film his character is based on? Do you know about the first scene of the film?

 

[Dragon777]

All logia admirals so far have used a blade of their element.

Did they?

Akainu didn't, as far as I remember (and that's excluding Ryo).

 

[Elder Lee Hung]

All logia admirals so far have used a blade of their element.

Not Akainu lol

 

[Crush]

Not Akainu lol

I said "so far" for a reason.

Akainu doesn't carry a blade anymore. He did as a new recruit. If he does actually use one again, he'll likely use his magma to create one.

 

[Elder Lee Hung]

I said "so far" for a reason.

Akainu doesn't carry a blade anymore. He did as a new recruit. If he does actually use one again, he'll likely use his magma to create one.

A magma blade would be a bit strange but sure lol. I would imagine Akainu doesn’t really need a magma sword but it’s possible.

 

[Shiroyru]

Bro is asking so many questions he´s answering his previous ones.

GB hasn´t used it because it doesn´t suit the form we´ve seen him use. That doesn´t mean he can´t use it lmfao.

Broccoli form is how GB mainly fights. If he has a Kokuto he forged himself, then he’d have a fighting style that doesn’t inhibit him from using his Kokuto 90% of the time

 

[comrade]

Are you actually familiar with the film his character is based on? Do you know about the first scene of the film?

Bro, who cares. All I need is my eyes seeing a black bar with a white hamon shaped line in the middle. Ain't no wooden stick looks like that. I don't get the mental gymnastics.

 

[Dragon777]

Broccoli form is how GB mainly fights. If he has a Kokuto he forged himself, then he’d have a fighting style that doesn’t inhibit him from using his Kokuto 90% of the time

Broccoli form is very likely the equivalent of full animal for a zoan user.

Unless you think he doesn't use the sword he carries around bascially ever.

 

[Elder Lee Hung]

Broccoli form is how GB mainly fights.

And yet he didn’t use Broccoli mode against Fujitora. Lol

 

[Dragon777]

And yet he didn’t use Broccoli mode against Fujitora. Lol

That's clearly the fodder deleing mode.

I mean, as said: he's made after a Ronin, same name as him even, carries a sword... but somehow he doesn't really use It lol.

 

[Shiroyru]

And yet he didn’t use Broccoli mode against Fujitora. Lol

Their fight was offscreened

 

[ZenZu]

This is the worst possible comparison. Aokiji makes repeated references to his past with Garp in his very first appearance, and is actually with Garp as they both appear at the end of EL

No it's not, it's the perfect reference. No one in their right mind would be able to in their wildest dreams predict Kuzan is a fistfighter let alone one comparable to Garp the mf fist. The strongest first fighter of all time. Kuzan was always shown throughout the story to be hax based, in every situation he was put in, including facing Whitebeard from point blank range, he chose to spam his devil fruit, even knowing the quake fruit counters it. It's actually incredibly stupid looking back, and it makes no sense but here we are.

Imagine we randomly find out Mihawk can punch on par with Garp despite being sword focused througout the story....yea that's basically what happened when Kuzan pulled out Garp tier punches out of nowhere. Let's not rewrite history.