Powers & Abilities Debunking Literally Every Argument Against Ryokugyu’s Black Blade UPDATE: Remembering The Fallen

[Shiroyru]

In Ronin Gai, as said, him being an excellent swordsman was actually a "surprise".

I suppose when Oda wants to drop the bomb and show him then.

In that case, wouldn’t Oda put a sheathe on GB’s blade to hide its identity as a Kokuto until the big surprise reveal?

 

[Elder Lee Hung]

So when does GB use his side quest item? Morley is too serious for that?

He will use his side quest item like Kuzan uses his fists. Punching Kuzan is nerfed Kuzan just like swordsman Green Bull is nerfed Green Bull.

Just like Aokiji used his Devil fruit at punk hazard, Green Bull used his fruit against Fujitora. Admirals only use their fruitless combat abilities against the likes of Garp and Rayleigh, not against real Admiral caliber opponents.

 

[kekaro]

So when does GB use his side quest item? Morley is too serious for that?

Counter question why dont we see Fujitora, a swordsman with a saijo, skillfully taking out aramaki nor karasu but callig nukes from orbit?


You guys are dogshit at arguing your point

 

[HA001]

Counter question why dont we see Fujitora, a swordsman with a saijo, skillfully taking out aramaki nor karasu but callig nukes from orbit?


You guys are dogshit at arguing your point

Fujis been holding back massively. Hes folding everyone weve seen him face up to so far.

 

[Crush]

I watched that movie years ago and i cant remember a black bamboo sword
Are you talking about the black scabbard that every single character in the movie has ??

No, watch the first scene of the film. Greenbull's character carries a black sheathed sword like all of them but the difference is that his original sword is actually a wood sword that he replaces with another sword.

I think it might end up just being a call back to Greenbull's character wielding a wood sword since he also has the forest logia.

 

[Dragon777]

You're missing the point. That doesn't even actually matter. We actually have no true official coloring for Greenbull's blade to begin with. Only the official by Shueshia & Oda has multiple occasions had different official colors. But it goes without saying that his sword is at least dark colored & it's fine to say black.

As happened many times, but we do have the official coloring in any way possibile: we have VCs and colored manga.

It's as official as you can go, short only of a colorspread I suppose.

What makes this interesting is the fact that he gave Greenbull the forest logia which also links to his Ronin-gai's character's original sword that was a wooden sword.

Which also falls in line with what we've seen from Logia Admirals so far whose swords match their elements.

Kizaru(Light Sword)
Kuzan(Ice Sword)
Greenbull(Wood Sword) which his Ronin-gai's character originally had.

Wooden sword are a common thing though. It's not peculiar to him; It's nothing special.

In OP, anyway, his sword has an hamon. If it didn't, we wouldn't be here.

 

[kekaro]

Fujis been holding back massively. Hes folding everyone weve seen him face up to so far.

You can use that exact same argument for Aramaki
Point is the argument "if aramaki is a master swordsman he would use his sword" is 100% debunked with the reverie scene, where Fujitora opts out to use a MORE destructive ability than aramakis despite having a saijo despite forbidden a sword approach would be superior

No, watch the first scene of the film. Greenbull's character carries a black sheathed sword like all of them but the difference is that his original sword is actually a wood sword that he replaces with another sword.

I think it might end up just being a call back to Greenbull's character wielding a wood sword since he also has the forest logia.

i know that, that sword is not colored like the manga

 

[Dragon777]

In that case, wouldn’t Oda put a sheathe on GB’s blade to hide its identity as a Kokuto until the big surprise reveal?

I suppose that's the way he used in order to have Ryokugyu's sword abilities be "talked about".

 

[Fn Lucci]

No it's not, it's the perfect reference. No one in their right mind would be able to in their wildest dreams predict Kuzan is a fistfighter let alone one comparable to Garp the mf fist. The strongest first fighter of all time. Kuzan was always shown throughout the story to be hax based, in every situation he was put in, including facing Whitebeard from point blank range, he chose to spam his devil fruit, even knowing the quake fruit counters it. It's actually incredibly stupid looking back, and it makes no sense but here we are.

Imagine we randomly find out Mihawk can punch on par with Garp despite being sword focused througout the story....yea that's basically what happened when Kuzan pulled out Garp tier punches out of nowhere. Let's not rewrite history.

No, the Marines are trained. The highest level of the Marines would, therefore, be the best trained. Akainu and Aokiji essentially cancel each other out in DF abilities, but Aokiji wasn't able to body him despite his hand to hand skill.

We saw Kuzan fighting Garp clearly after his prime and while he was buying time and surrounded by other enemy combatants. The idea that Kuzan would be equal to Garp at the same age without his DF is an argument for the sake of agenda.

Of course he's top tier as an unarmed combatant but the reason YOU might have assumed otherwise is because that's really not relevant to much of the story. I don't think we'll ever see him actually use that skill to win because his ice is more practical.

Getting back to Aramaki, this example fails if you're trying to make an assumption about his sword skills without him drawing his sword with a comparison to Kuzan using his fists.

 

[ZenZu]

I can see it being a wood sword, but it's still black at the end of the day.

 

[kekaro]

I can see it being a wood sword, but it's still black at the end of the day.

pretty much end of the argument rest is cope

 

[Crush]

As happened many times, but we do have the official coloring in any way possibile: we have VCs and colored manga.

It's as official as you can go, short only of a colorspread I suppose.

VCS and colored manga are not colored by Oda that's why we've ended up having different colors at times because Oda's official colorings were not the same.

Wooden sword are a common thing though. It's not peculiar to him; It's nothing special.

In OP, anyway, his sword has an hamon. If it didn't, we wouldn't be here.

We don't have actual wooden swords in one piece. Only bokken. If Greenbull has an actual sword of his element, which also links to his ronin character's original sword(wood), then it would be the first.

 

[Dragon777]

VCS and colored manga are not colored by Oda that's why we've ended up having different colors at times because Oda's official colorings were not the same.

Those are the official colours.

Then Oda changes them because he does what he wants (he even changed Ju Peter's hair), but those are official.

Then ok, you can say It's not a color spread, but it's still official.

We don't have actual wooden swords in one piece. Only bokken. If Greenbull has an actual sword of his element, which also links to his ronin character's original sword(wood), then it would be the first.

We have seen some Bokken I think, but I was mostly talking about Ronin Gai.

 

[Crush]

You can use that exact same argument for Aramaki
Point is the argument "if aramaki is a master swordsman he would use his sword" is 100% debunked with the reverie scene, where Fujitora opts out to use a MORE destructive ability than aramakis despite having a saijo despite forbidden a sword approach would be superior

i know that, that sword is not colored like the manga

The manga isn't colored to begin with. That's the problem. Black can be actually black or it can be a myriad of different options. We won't know the full truth till Oda himself colors it. I think it might end up being brown imo.

 

[kekaro]

We don't have actual wooden swords in one piece. Only bokken. If Greenbull has an actual sword of his element, which also links to his ronin character's original sword(wood), then it would be the first.

Thats not true either

A shinnai is literal made out of bamboo and we see it multiple times

 

[Crush]

Those are the official colours.

Then Oda changes them because he does what he wants (he even changed Ju Peter's hair), but those are official.

Then ok, you can say It's not a color spread, but it's still official.



We have seen some Bokken I think, but I was mostly talking about Ronin Gai.

Jupeter's hair color isn't the actual only example. There are a few characters that have had different color designs. Oda doesn't vet everything in the end.

Also, There's only one wooden sword in Ronin Gai and that was at the beginning of the film.

 

[ZenZu]

pretty much end of the argument rest is cope

The sword isn't wood coloured, you can see his fingers turning into branches so the contrast is quite clear. He wouldn't be constantly applying CoA to a sword he isn't even using, so yea.

I can see why people would question if it's a black blade, but it being wooden doesn't actually change the fact that it's very clearly black in the black and white manga, when wood on its own is never coloured that way.

 

[kekaro]

If someone want to cope shinnais are not out wood/bamboo, we see literal wood splinters when one breaks

 

[Crush]

Thats not true either

A shinnai is literal made out of bamboo and we see it multiple times

Shinai are training swords. They're not actual swords they used in combat. It's understood that all those who practice in swordsmanship use those while training.

 

[kekaro]

Shinai are training swords. They're not actual swords they used in combat. It's understood that all those who practice in swordsmanship use those while training.

????
You said we dont see wooden swords in one piece my man.
Shinnais are MADE out of BAMBOO the material you said aramakis sword is, it litterarly the same. Do you think if i transform a sword out of iron into a knife for cooking it color changes or what?

This is you arguing right now: