People overestimate how much the U.S. has been helping Israel

in fact we were bigger allies to Egypt than IS until 67 irrc
People also underestimate how corrupt Arab armies were

AND how completely retarded Soviet training was , like the Ethiopian army pretty much said in the 70s that in a non nuclear fight America would wipe the floor with the Soviets in a Air war after being trained by both
 

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I don’t think we have tho? The U.S. didn’t supply any arms to Israel until the 70s. In fact I think the stole shit from the British
I mean, we were the first country to recognize the State of Israel at its inception and we’ve been sending them some form of economic aid ever since, that sounds like a benefactor to me :kayneshrug:
 
People also underestimate how corrupt Arab armies were

AND how completely retarded Soviet training was , like the Ethiopian army pretty much said in the 70s that in a non nuclear fight America would wipe the floor with the Soviets in a Air war after being trained by both
Yeah back again to what I said earlier, Palestinians have just chosen stupid leaders and align themselves with ineffective people

the fact that the PLO managed to screw over relations with 3 countries that had a sizable Palestinian minority isn’t talked about enough
 
This is true.

Take this war -

People who are so vocal to criticize Israel and US (well do deserve criticism) goes silent when it comes to talking about how Iran killed 40000 protesters and are defending the regime. This is so BS

I don't see these people making any statement against Iran's regime killing their own people or how Iran actively funded Hezbollah and Hamas terror attacks for decades.

Criticism goes both ways and if one can't be balanced then they are being hypocrite and biased
What course of action can anyone in the US take to influence the Iranian regime, and how does starting a war affect it?
 
Tbh, Jordan and Lebanon should have never let them in, PLO's doctrine flat out believes in Greater Syria(and eventually greater Arabia)
Tbh weren’t all those countries vying for a pan Arab nation at that point in time? Like whoever won the Palestinian issue would be the leader no? It’s why countries like Lebanon and Egypt just annexed the area instead of creating a state. They all imagined Israel would be eventually annexed alongside the rest
 
Tbh weren’t all those countries vying for a pan Arab nation at that point in time? Like whoever won the Palestinian issue would be the leader no? It’s why countries like Lebanon and Egypt just annexed the area instead of creating a state. They all imagined Israel would be eventually annexed alongside the rest
For Jordan they wanted a Hashemite Kingdom in the Near East, Hence why the Saudis secretly supported Israel in 1948, and Once Nasser came to Power Jordan abandoned that dream as they saw Nasserite Arabism as a threat

Eventually Jordan annexed the West Bank anyway, especially as Most Jordanians came from the west Bank during the 19th century
 

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In all these years, I never went down that rabbit hole. What is supposed to be the role of Al Qeada in this scenario?
The terrorist groups of the Middle East are either radicals or well meaning revolutionaries, who mostly just get used by governments and then disposed of.

If you're hearing good things about one of these groups and they're being painted as freedom fighters, it's because they're doing dirty work for a government and being propped up by them.

Once they start being called terrorist organizations is generally when the government that was propping them up doesn't have a use for them anymore, or they're more trouble than they're worth, so they cut ties. Once this happens, they use the media to demonize these groups and paint them as terrorists, despite the fact that these governments are the ones who funded them in the first place.

This is very useful for governments like Russia, Israel, and the US, who crave war in these territories, but have a hard time brainwashing their own people to fight in them. By constantly funding, freedom fighter groups in radical groups, using them for military insurgency, then labeling them as terrorists afterwards, these rich nations have had a constant supply of mercenaries that they can get rid of whenever they wish to continue their illegal fraudulent wars.

Some of the leadership end higher-ups are
From nepotism and governments, like with Osama, but even then, that obviously doesn't stop them from also getting targeted eventually. Once again, like with Osama.

A lot of these leaders get what Blue Jam got in one piece: they get promised the keys to the kingdom, only to get locked outside once the war starts.

Nearly every muslim terrorist organization that achieved global prominence got their initial funding from Britain, USA, Israel, or Russia. Mostly the US and Israel.

Once these terrorist cells realize that they've been played, they obviously declare whoever betrayed them as their enemy, but their ability to fight back against geopolitical superpowers is very limited. Unfortunately, since the education family structure and overall societal structure is such a mess over there due to constant religious and political conflicts, the young men don't get taught why it's wrong to join these cells, because that's all they're surrounded by.

The youth had been robbed of the true history by these old ghouls and gremlins.

What many don't realize is most people in these terrorist cells do hate our governments, but really don't want anything to do with citizens of these countries and realize we're just brainwashed fools in a lot of cases.

Israel and the USA are different stories because large parts of the population of those countries are so wildly hateful towards Arabic populations, that a lot of them view us as demons for making this much money destroying their lives and murdering their kids.

To those victims of Western imperialism, the people in the West that celebrate the destruction of Arab society are the Satan
 
Brother, you and I both know that’s not true…I agree that this country is founded on hatred and prejudice, but just because Israel wasn’t a factor in the 1600s doesn’t mean they aren’t one now, and having a “special relationship” with America is the only reason they haven’t yet been recolonized by the natives.
How would you say Israel is in part responsible for American austerity politics? Because I genuinely don’t see why they would care about our domestic policies.

If anything it’s more the case that funding for Israel and austerity politics both have the same root cause, which is American capitalism.
 
And I dont even have an accent fool. Only know English and dont have a foreign culture. The agent made it up when I questioned him on reasonable suspicion.

So you tell me...what exactly is a "foreign accent?" Cause apparently regular american dialect is now off the table.
how many dialects do you even have? must be a crazy amount
 

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How would you say Israel is in part responsible for American austerity politics? Because I genuinely don’t see why they would care about our domestic policies.

If anything it’s more the case that funding for Israel and austerity politics both have the same root cause, which is American capitalism.
I don’t think they’re responsible for our political system or give a shit about our internecine conflicts, they just benefit from those things in ways that are detrimental both inside and outside America. You won’t hear me argue against capitalism as the root of all evil, though :luuh:
 
The terrorist groups of the Middle East are either radicals or well meaning revolutionaries, who mostly just get used by governments and then disposed of.

If you're hearing good things about one of these groups and they're being painted as freedom fighters, it's because they're doing dirty work for a government and being propped up by them.

Once they start being called terrorist organizations is generally when the government that was propping them up doesn't have a use for them anymore, or they're more trouble than they're worth, so they cut ties. Once this happens, they use the media to demonize these groups and paint them as terrorists, despite the fact that these governments are the ones who funded them in the first place.

This is very useful for governments like Russia, Israel, and the US, who crave war in these territories, but have a hard time brainwashing their own people to fight in them. By constantly funding, freedom fighter groups in radical groups, using them for military insurgency, then labeling them as terrorists afterwards, these rich nations have had a constant supply of mercenaries that they can get rid of whenever they wish to continue their illegal fraudulent wars.

Some of the leadership end higher-ups are
From nepotism and governments, like with Osama, but even then, that obviously doesn't stop them from also getting targeted eventually. Once again, like with Osama.

A lot of these leaders get what Blue Jam got in one piece: they get promised the keys to the kingdom, only to get locked outside once the war starts.

Nearly every muslim terrorist organization that achieved global prominence got their initial funding from Britain, USA, Israel, or Russia. Mostly the US and Israel.

Once these terrorist cells realize that they've been played, they obviously declare whoever betrayed them as their enemy, but their ability to fight back against geopolitical superpowers is very limited. Unfortunately, since the education family structure and overall societal structure is such a mess over there due to constant religious and political conflicts, the young men don't get taught why it's wrong to join these cells, because that's all they're surrounded by.

The youth had been robbed of the true history by these old ghouls and gremlins.

What many don't realize is most people in these terrorist cells do hate our governments, but really don't want anything to do with citizens of these countries and realize we're just brainwashed fools in a lot of cases.

Israel and the USA are different stories because large parts of the population of those countries are so wildly hateful towards Arabic populations, that a lot of them view us as demons for making this much money destroying their lives and murdering their kids.

To those victims of Western imperialism, the people in the West that celebrate the destruction of Arab society are the Satan
This lines up in general, but didn't Osama take credit for it and all that?
 

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This is the most infuriating thing about Donnie and his cronies - they absolutely could have come in and done these things, and he would currently be every bit as beloved and exalted as he thinks he should be…he really had the chance to be a working class hero if he could just let go of his various insecurities and behavioral disorders…his administration could have been one of the most effective and proficient of all time…instead, it’s just a constant cavalcade of rapists and fascists robbing us blind and telling us it’s our fault for being poor, I truly fail to understand how anyone who voted for this is still proud of the job he’s doing :catcry:catded
 

Jew D. Boy

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This is the most infuriating thing about Donnie and his cronies - they absolutely could have come in and done these things, and he would currently be every bit as beloved and exalted as he thinks he should be…he really had the chance to be a working class hero if he could just let go of his various insecurities and behavioral disorders…his administration could have been one of the most effective and proficient of all time…instead, it’s just a constant cavalcade of rapists and fascists robbing us blind and telling us it’s our fault for being poor, I truly fail to understand how anyone who voted for this is still proud of the job he’s doing :catcry:catded
I would ask one of y’all to tag Ravager and see what he thinks, but I’ll probably get banned for even typing his name before posting this :few:
 
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