Controversial General Political Discussion

[Reborn]

I agree, infrastructure not related to the war shouldn't be bombed.

India did use diplomacy and house Iranian navy that was in an exercise in return for getting its ships docked. Other countries absolutely should reach out now, while Iran can still be selective with who it hits. Iranians know once they mine the strait the whole world turns against them, thats why they're trying to gain some goodwill now.

Yeah! And, one more thing - Iran's deputy Foreign Minister visited India few days ago as well. What he talked - I don't know but his visit was during the war.

Few countries did reach out, however, they end up being in the bind due to their dependency on USA.

Diplomacy and building relations require efforts.

 

[Reborn]

Few things backfired for USA

1) inadequate planning - insufficient build up of military vessels and resources + not securing Hormuz immediately

2) Killing of Khamenei - it really angered Iran and pushed them to fight until the end. Perhaps US - Israel felt that killing top commanders and Khamenei would weaken Iran but it end up increasing their resolve and unite for the cause.

3) Underestimating Iran offensive capabilities- Shahed drones really played massive role in favor of Iran.

Trump really messed it up.

Even though US most likely will achieve its goal but I think it would be short lived.

There's huge probability that regime change might not happen and in this scenario, Iran's resolve to strengthen itself militarily would skyrocket..

Middle East became more geopolticallly tensed due to deteriorating relations between Gulf and Iran. Even if they resume diplomatic relations, deep down this war will keep relations sour.

We might even see more US presence in the Gulf states after this war.

 

[Jesse Pinkman]

“DURR HOW WILL WE PAY FOR UNIVERSAL HEALTHCARE WHEN WE HAVE TO FUND SEVERAL GENOCIDES DUUURRRRR, JUST NO WAY TO MAKE IT WORK EEEHHH DURR DURRR”

I cant believe US dont have free healthcare its amazing you guys waste trillions of dollars on war. You guys are getting scammed from birth to death. I al not saying Europe is heaven but at least we will die in waiting list .

 

[Midnight Delight]

I cant believe US dont have free healthcare its amazing you guys waste trillions of dollars on war. You guys are getting scammed from birth to death. I al not saying Europe is heaven but at least we will die in waiting list .

A lot of Americans don't really care because they have Jobs with "Free" Healthcare tied to it from what I have heard

So the people screwed are mostly "lesser" people without a "career job"

 

[Jesse Pinkman]

A lot of Americans don't really care because they have Jobs with "Free" Healthcare tied to it from what I have heard

So the people screwed are mostly "lesser" people without a "career job"

Well lesser people are also humans they equally deserve healthcare . Imagine the person who loses job he is completely fucked i guess.

 

[MonochromeYoru]

A lot of Americans don't really care because they have Jobs with "Free" Healthcare tied to it from what I have heard

So the people screwed are mostly "lesser" people without a "career job"

That only covers part of the cost i think

they still have to pay out of pocket. Especially for serious and costly stuff like surgery, cancer meds etc

 

[Blax Blah]

@Jew D. Boy that image is ridiculous

 

[Roo]

From what I heard, the drone seems to have come from the sea. That is a weird direction for it to come from and pass undetected if its launched by Iran. Not that its impossible, but a falseflag attack isn't ruled out. Iran hasn't claimed the attack for what its worth, while they do claim most attacks on other Gulf states.

I'll will side with the intelligence of each nation that has blamed iran over some shoddy conspiracy.

 

[Roo]

A lot of Americans don't really care because they have Jobs with "Free" Healthcare tied to it from what I have heard

So the people screwed are mostly "lesser" people without a "career job"

Yup, most americans are satisfied with their private coverage

https://www.pulmonologyadvisor.com/news/most-americans-are-happy-with-health-insurance-poll-finds/

they still have to pay out of pocket. Especially for serious and costly stuff like surgery, cancer meds etc

Most Americans never pay shit out of pocket. Those large bills you see reported don't happen enough for the average american to believe it is a huge issue.

Denials are rare to begin with, and they happen on both private care and medicaid/medicare anyways

 

[MonochromeYoru]

Most Americans never pay shit out of pocket. Those large bills you see reported don't happen enough for the average american to believe it is a huge issue.

Denials are rare to begin with, and they happen on both private care and medicaid/medicare anyways

because most americans actually get seriously hurt. that doesn't erase the ones that do and has to pay a lot out of pocket

Luigi got so much support for killing a dude because it IS an issue for the average murican no?

And isn't medicare on the chopping block/already cut?

 

[Roo]

because most americans actually get seriously hurt. that doesn't erase the ones that do and has to pay a lot out of pocket

I don’t know how you would even measure or track this so I’m not going to argue this point lmao. If you want to headcanon policy go ahead

Luigi got so much support for killing a dude because it IS an issue for the average murican no?

That shit is primarily online, where foreign actors also exist lol.

Every polling shows Americans do care about healthcare, but not to the extent of killing healthcare CEOs. You need to touch grass if you believe otherwise

And isn't medicare on the chopping block/already cut?

Yup and Trump was smart enough to start the cuts right before his term is about to end. Everybody knows you don’t touch SSI and Medicaid/Medicare

 

[Jew D. Boy]

@Jew D. Boy that image is ridiculous

It’s supposed to be, big dawg…how better to depict the MAGAt mentality than a neckbeard chud suffocating on their own bad decisions??

 

[Blax Blah]

It’s supposed to be, big dawg…how better to depict the MAGAt mentality than a neckbeard chud suffocating on their own bad decisions??

Well I'm a penguin

 

[Jew D. Boy]

Well I'm a penguin

You sure are, pal

 

[Reborn]

Trump - There's nothing left for America to target in Iran

Also, Trump - US Will Hit Iran Very Hard Next Week

 

[Midnight Delight]

Funniest thing in all of this is Americans talking about how the Iraq war was a mistake when 80% of Iraqis agree it was for the best that Saddam Feel

 

[Roo]

Funniest thing in all of this is Americans talking about how the Iraq war was a mistake when 80% of Iraqis agree it was for the best that Saddam Feel

We probably should've taken care of him during the first persian gulf war

 

[Midnight Delight]

We probably should've taken care of him during the first persian gulf war

Would have saved Millions of Lives

And neither Salafists nor Khomeinists had that much influence in Iraq at the time, so you would have just had a normal country that's just corrupt, like Today without having to wait 30 years of Chaos

 

[Etzel Andergast]

I dreamed today that germany bombed milano

 

[Midnight Delight]

I dreamed today that germany bombed milano

The Eternal Hanz would do that