Powers & Abilities Debunking Literally Every Argument Against Ryokugyu’s Black Blade UPDATE: Remembering The Fallen

[Shimotsuki Fenaker]

I love how this level of skepticism only comes through when it comes to items that are against your agenda. Lol

“Prove Weevil is a DF user!” But you’re also just accepting that Ryokugyu is a fruit merchant even with a black blade clearly drawn on his hip.

Seeing as how I could literally post a panel of Ryokugyu’s black blade and you would still deny it, the notion that you will belief any “proof” that is shown right into your face is hilarious. It is not possible to have a good faith debate with you because you don’t believe the literal panels I do show you, but you will believe whatever bullshit headcanon you’ve hallucinated with zero panel support. Lol

Bro posted an essay to express his frustration instead of proving his claims of Weevil being a DF user.
Where's the proof scholar?

Oda himself created Zephyr and wrote his entire history. So in Oda’s mind, Weevil is worthy and capable of taking the arm off an Admiral, while Mihawk has never had any feat even within the same realm as even fighting an Admiral let alone beating one. All we have in canon is Mihawk failing to beat Yonko Commanders and Crocodile. Even outside of the canon, Oda never gave Mihawk a single opponent of note. Mihawk hasn’t even been to fucking Wano lmfao.

The world’s strongest swordsman (allegedly) never visited the country where the rest of the world’s strongest swordsmen reside. Lol

Another text of cope, are you going to keep posting essays that show nothing but your frustration and cope?

Also Oda created Bullet, where's bullet in the manga canon ?

I posted explicit panels, and you disbelieved them because you don’t believe anything you haven’t already decided to believe in. I’m not here to convince you of anything, I’m here to humiliate and ratio you lol.

Are these panels in the room with us ?

Where are the proofs of your claims that Zephyr is a canon character also Weevil being a DF user?
All i have seen is you pulling headcanons outta your ass and thinking you have made an argument.

See here we fucking go LMFAO, “Ryuma and Pissjulo are rivals, no I don’t need any manga panels to know that!” “Ryuma slayed Nidhogg, no I don’t need any panels to prove that!” “Just because Green Bull put Fujitora into bandages on panel doesn’t mean Green Bull won, do you have any dialogue bubbles to support that claim??!!”

Absolute idiot lmfao.

What you have posted are claims and not facts scholar, not even the fandom believe that shit except Zoro fans lmao.

Bandage scaling?
Jimbei was bandaged while not fighting anyone except lifting boxes.

Boxes beat Jimbei according to our scholars.

I gave you multiple arguments, panels, statements from the mouth of Oda, and you denied every single one of them with literally no evidence while continuing to hallucinate Mihawk as being capable of defeating opponents stronger than Jozu despite all evidence to the contrary lmfao.

Get a grip loser

You didn't prove a single claim to be true instead you posted them as facts without any proofs, typical admiral scholar and you even went to bandage scaling which left me you believing bandaged Jimbei went extreme diff against Boxes.
× a Reminder :
• Akainu struggling to one shot a heavily injured and tortured Kuma while using his signature attack.

• Aokiji needed a distraction to beat Human form Jozu and barely managing to stop old Garp with team work.

• Fujitora acknowledging using his real strength yet he struggled against a YC Luffy.

• Kizaru getting rag dolled by YC Marco and leaving a paper cut on Gear 5th who got destroyed at each turn by holding back Kaido.

• GB getting wifi diffed by not even the WSS and struggling against a YC 7 Morley.

 

[Elder Lee Hung]

Also Oda created Bullet, where's bullet in the manga canon ?

Another great example of Oda not giving a shit about Failhawk lmfao.

Oda created Bullet and made him a Crocodile rival. Yet another instance of Oda giving Weevil and Crocodile top tier feats and rivals while flushing Mihawk down the Yonko Commander toilet lmfao.

Where are the proofs of your claims that Zephyr is a canon character also Weevil being a DF user?

I never said Zephyr was canon, which you would know if you could read worth a shit (although Zephyr’s history is probably canon)

The point of Zephyr is to show how much Oda does not care about Mihawk, he used Zephyr to hype Weevil and used Bullet to hype Crocodile. Meanwhile Mihawk the Marine Hunter runs from Vice Admirals and weaker lmfao.

You didn't prove a single claim to be true instead you posted them as facts without any proofs

Yes manga panels are indeed facts lmfao, when you aren’t a retarded Mihawk/Zolo gobbler it’s pretty obvious that manga panels are in fact evidence

 

[Shiroyru]

@soupongo @mly90 Can we all just agree that the Shanks and GB scene is kinda just poorly written?

Sure, Shanks does say that he’s not accusing GB of fighting dirty, but his body language directly contradicts that, and attacking people that are allegedly still recovering from another fight is something that most people would consider to be kinda dirty. It’s just poorly written dialogue by Oda, so I’d say you both have a valid point.

Also, with regards to the alliance still recovering thing, that’s just yet another thing that’s poorly written. The alliance doesn’t really look like they’re still weakened, but keep in mind that Shanks can literally sense all of them with his CoO and could clearly tell if they’re at full strength or not, and it wouldn’t make much sense for Oda to have multiple characters state that the alliance is still recovering if it wasn’t true. You’d have to argue that Oda is just lying to his readers for literally no reason.

 

[Monster Zoro's Tesla Supplier]

@soupongo @mly90 Can we all just agree that the Shanks and GB scene is kinda just poorly written?

Sure, Shanks does say that he’s not accusing GB of fighting dirty, but his body language directly contradicts that, and attacking people that are allegedly still recovering from another fight is something that most people would consider to be kinda dirty. It’s just poorly written dialogue by Oda, so I’d say you both have a valid point.

Also, with regards to the alliance still recovering thing, that’s just yet another thing that’s poorly written. The alliance doesn’t really look like they’re still weakened, but keep in mind that Shanks can literally sense all of them with his CoO and could clearly tell if they’re at full strength or not, and it wouldn’t make much sense for Oda to have multiple characters state that the alliance is still recovering if it wasn’t true. You’d have to argue that Oda is just lying to his readers for literally no reason.

Almost like it was just a hastily put together moment that Oda made solely to promote film red

 

[Dragon777]

Almost like it was just a hastily put together moment that Oda made solely to promote film red

Yeah, almost. As if.

 

[Shiroyru]

Almost like it was just a hastily put together moment that Oda made solely to promote film red

Sure, but that doesn’t make the WiFi Haki feat non canon

 

[Monster Zoro's Tesla Supplier]

Sure, but that doesn’t make the WiFi Haki feat non canon

It doesn't but it's really not that different from Teach being scared by Rayleigh. I don't think it's actually reliable to say who wins in a fight, although Shanks does still extreme diff Aramaki.

 

[Dragon777]

Sure, but that doesn’t make the WiFi Haki feat non canon

As It doesn't what Aramaki says, even though people tend to forget.

 

[Shiroyru]

It doesn't but it's really not that different from Teach being scared by Rayleigh. I don't think it's actually reliable to say who wins in a fight, although Shanks does still extreme diff Aramaki.

Good grief man.

 

[soupongo]

@soupongo @mly90 Can we all just agree that the Shanks and GB scene is kinda just poorly written?

Sure, Shanks does say that he’s not accusing GB of fighting dirty, but his body language directly contradicts that, and attacking people that are allegedly still recovering from another fight is something that most people would consider to be kinda dirty. It’s just poorly written dialogue by Oda, so I’d say you both have a valid point.

Also, with regards to the alliance still recovering thing, that’s just yet another thing that’s poorly written. The alliance doesn’t really look like they’re still weakened, but keep in mind that Shanks can literally sense all of them with his CoO and could clearly tell if they’re at full strength or not, and it wouldn’t make much sense for Oda to have multiple characters state that the alliance is still recovering if it wasn’t true. You’d have to argue that Oda is just lying to his readers for literally no reason.

Besides it being poorly written, I disagree

1. Shanks is mad because Greenbull wants to attack the new generation after they made pirate history. We know why he´s mad, because he tells us ¨Do you really fear the new generation that much?¨. Basically, Oda is literally telling us that his methods aren´t the problem for Shanks, it´s his intention. Anything about Aramaki going after defeated opponents or fighting dirty is just headcanon.

2. The pirates are recovering.... meaning partying. None of them are in horrible shape. Shanks just thinks they should be able to spend a few days in Wano in peace before they set out and return to piracy, with momo and the scabards believing the same thing. Nothing different with King and Queen, who were drinking and partying themselves, and tried jumping Aramaki, who didn´t even have an interest in fighting them. We don´t need to overthink this.

 

[Shiroyru]

As It doesn't what Aramaki says, even though people tend to forget.

Wdym

 

[Dragon777]

Wdym

"Red Hair pirates"
"I'm not picking a fight with you guys. Not yet..."

 

[Shiroyru]

Besides it being poorly written, I disagree

1. Shanks is mad because Greenbull wants to attack the new generation after they made pirate history. We know why he´s mad, because he tells us ¨Do you really fear the new generation that much?¨. Basically, Oda is literally telling us that his methods aren´t the problem for Shanks, it´s his intention. Anything about Aramaki going after defeated opponents or fighting dirty is just headcanon.

2. The pirates are recovering.... meaning partying. None of them are in horrible shape. Shanks just thinks they should be able to spend a few days in Wano in peace before they set out and return to piracy, with momo and the scabards believing the same thing. Nothing different with King and Queen, who were drinking and partying themselves, and tried jumping Aramaki, who didn´t even have an interest in fighting them. We don´t need to overthink this.

Shanks went out of his way to confirm that Kid had fully recovered from Wano right before beating his ass

 

[Shiroyru]

"Red Hair pirates"
"I'm not pixoing a fight with you guys. Not yet..."

1. GB started twerking even before he figured out who it was.

2. Do you actually think GB has serious intentions to lead an assault on the RHPs anytime soon? I read that more as GB trying to save some face

 

[soupongo]

Shanks went out of his way to confirm that Kid had fully recovered from Wano right before beating his ass

Yeah, but it´s not an obligation. The government has a legitimate reason to go after the alliance, and a week is a long time in the story. It would be maybe dirty tactics after 1 hour or 1 day, but at that point, the SHP were clearly in decent shape.

How long was it in between the SHP leaving WCI to Wano anyway? It´s not like Luffy was perma nerfed after fighting Kata or anything.

 

[Shiroyru]

Yeah, but it´s not an obligation. The government has a legitimate reason to go after the alliance, and a week is a long time in the story. It would be maybe dirty tactics after 1 hour or 1 day, but at that point, the SHP were clearly in decent shape.

How long was it in between the SHP leaving WCI to Wano anyway? It´s not like Luffy was perma nerfed after fighting Kata or anything.

Didn’t Luffy and Zoro just wake up the same day GB attacked?

Shanks asking if Kid was fully healed before he fought him (with this taking place like a week or two after Kid left Wano) pretty clearly proves that Shanks was talking about the alliance still physically recovering, not partying.

 

[Dragon777]

1. GB started twerking even before he figured out who it was.

That may have been a problem in Wano, not now.

Now an haki compared to Shanks' de-transformed all 5 Gorosei, sent 4 of them back or Marijoa and made Imu have a panic attack.

And in Wano Aramaki was the sole target of that and took it even by surprise.

2. Do you actually think GB has serious intentions to lead an assault on the RHPs anytime soon? I read that more as GB trying to save some face

Not necessarily, but was Oda's way of telling that Aramaki wasn't backing down for Shanks, but because all RHP were there. And wasn't even against taking them on in general, but just now.

*Btw, Kaido + King folded against the sole RHP, while Aramaki had them and the whole Wano + Luffy + Law + Kidd.

 

[Fujishiro]

"Red Hair pirates"
"I'm not picking a fight with you guys. Not yet..."

Sounds like a cop out from him lol. Unless you think he can 1vs20 them. Its obvious that Shanks was the main deterrent, his haki was what made him react so strongly.

 

[Dragon777]

Sounds like a cop out from him lol. Unless you think he can 1vs20 them. Its obvious that Shanks was the main deterrent, his haki was what made him react so strongly.

And still Aramaki was deterred only by the whole RHP and wasn't even deterred in general.

That phrase is there to explain to us how we should take the scene and Aramaki deciding to leave.

In some It's a "sorry, I had to do It for the promo".

 

[soupongo]

Didn’t Luffy and Zoro just wake up the same day GB attacked?

And they woke up in good shape, so it all works out. They were ready, just in time.

Shanks asking if Kid was fully healed before he fought him (with this taking place like a week or two after Kid left Wano) pretty clearly proves that Shanks was talking about the alliance still physically recovering, not partying.

Why are we assuming that Shanks sensed the state of every alliance member in Wano when he didn´t even enter the country? Why didnt he just sense Kidd´s status before fighting him? He probably didn´t know for sure/why would he even remember or care about Kidd´s status in specific?

It doesn´t matter anyway. Regardless of his ¨state¨ Kidd was lowkey considering fighting Luffy in Wano and was willing to fight Shanks at Egghead. It obviously doesn´t matter if he had some injuries from beforehand, because that´s not how Oda writes OP.